"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Any Stratagies For Beach Game?

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I Got Tired Of Going To The Same Bars And Seeing The Same Average Chicks Over And Over Again. And There Were Not Very Many Of Them Either. I Was Looking For A Much More "target Rich" Enviornment. I Found This Bar Thats Right On The Beach And Every Sat & Sun Afternoon It Has A Spring Break Feel To It. I Think I Bit Off A Little More Than I Could Chew, And I Was A Bit Overwelmed. There Are So Many Hot Chicks! Solid 9's & 10's Everywhere. Not Only That But Since Its The Beach, They Are All Wearing Bikinis & Thongs. There Is Also A Bunch Of Muscle Bound Dudes There As Compitition Which I'm Not. I Think Of Myself As Good Looking, But I Dont Have Abs. My Approach Anxiety Went Through The Roof. I Basically Just Stood Around With My Wing Starring At Tits & Ass, Not Talking To Anyone, And Looking Dumbfounded. I'm Wondering If You Guys Have Any Suggestions About How To Game In This Venue? Do You Think I Should Go More Direct Or Indirect? Do You Think Their Defenses Are Much Higher Cause Their Wearing Less Clothes?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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my keyboard was in all caps, thats weird that it changed the format, back to the real question at hand please....
 

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I do pretty good at the beaches, you have to realize that they are feeling nice and relaxed, so it's a GREAT time to meet them. They may also be bored and would be stoked to talk to someone. What I normally do is put down a towel in fairly close proximity but when I'm doing it don't make it obvious you are trying to sit close to them. Then when I wanna talk it's usually opened up with something like asking them to watch my stuff while I swim and make sure they kick anyone's ass if they try to steal it when I'm gone. I'll go for a dip for a bit and when I get back I'll ask them if they had to bust out the karate moves and take someone down while I was away. Sometimes they play it off like they did and sometimes not, either way you can go from there to more normal conversation . Another simple, but decent opener is if they just got back from the water to ask how it was, warm cold etc. Pretty natural / normal ways to start conversations. From there it's easy to jump into where they are from, what they've been doing on vaca, give some suggestions and hype up something I'm doing later and invite them, get the number etc.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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If you can get your foot in the door it's probably the best environment to talk to them. The ocean is scenic and relaxing and you both feel happy - plus there is normally no competition (at least in the days before cell phones).

However, getting your foot in the door can be a big challenge - they often do not want to be approached and/or feel insecure about your seeing their body. They have to be very confident. Cold calling is not recommended - you have to get some outward sign - some smile or something, then approach and say hello. Ask if they are on vacation or something.
 

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yuppaz said:
I do pretty good at the beaches, you have to realize that they are feeling nice and relaxed, so it's a GREAT time to meet them. They may also be bored and would be stoked to talk to someone. What I normally do is put down a towel in fairly close proximity but when I'm doing it don't make it obvious you are trying to sit close to them. Then when I wanna talk it's usually opened up with something like asking them to watch my stuff while I swim and make sure they kick anyone's ass if they try to steal it when I'm gone. I'll go for a dip for a bit and when I get back I'll ask them if they had to bust out the karate moves and take someone down while I was away. Sometimes they play it off like they did and sometimes not, either way you can go from there to more normal conversation . Another simple, but decent opener is if they just got back from the water to ask how it was, warm cold etc. Pretty natural / normal ways to start conversations. From there it's easy to jump into where they are from, what they've been doing on vaca, give some suggestions and hype up something I'm doing later and invite them, get the number etc.
This, I like. +rep
 

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Buy a beach volley-ball and go up to a hot girl and ask her if she wants to play with you.
 

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Or even better, ask her if she wants to play with your balls. :D
 

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there's the congruence concept
when you have a volley ball you can ask girls
'hey girl are you cool enough ?' then they want to say yes
so you say come to play volley with us and you can even do guys vs. chicks or mix the team
so she basically said she's cool so your main question came after to explain that cool girl play volley with you
and when someone say something they must act as they said !

other thing i used that once when i see a chick staying just far enough to let only her legs being in the water i can come up and ask 'do you affraid from shark too ?'
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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IMO picking up chicks on the beach is easy

2 weeks ago my friend and i tried the good old go long with the football trick...and it actually worked
 

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irocknike23 said:
2 weeks ago my friend and i tried the good old go long with the football trick...and it actually worked
what's the football trick ?
 

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TheMale said:
what's the football trick ?
lol i sorry i should of explained it i assumed everyone seen american pie

1)toss a football with your friend(s), so it doesnt look so obvious like you guys are there just to pick up chicks
2)find a group of chicks laying down or messing around in the sand
3)have your buddy throw a bomb in their direction and go and catch it and kinda land in the middle of them(not on them)
4)apologize with the "im sorry my bad", while your buddy(ies) are running over there
5)as you get up introduce yourself and your friend(s)


Luckily for me, my friend and I are on the football squad for our school and we had our team shorts on and my friend was a QB so he can put the ball anywhere on the dot.


But honestly you can do it with anyone who can throw a spiral you just gota throw in their direction to get your friend to run in the girls direction




It worked very well for both of us, we talked to the girls for about 20 min and met them up the same night at the movies and we even had to bring an extra friend because there was 3 of them and 2 of us
 

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1. Get good body

2. Go to beach with friends to play ball.

3. Meet group of girls.

4. Arrange to meet up later or another day.

5. Pick a target.

6. Lock and load.

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If you're chubby or deathly pale on a beach with any competition, you'll never make it. Dark clubs are a lair for people with more game than looks, the beach is the lair for people with more looks than game.
 

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Quiksilver said:
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If you're chubby or deathly pale on a beach with any competition, you'll never make it. Dark clubs are a lair for people with more game than looks, the beach is the lair for people with more looks than game.
uhh sometimes fat or pale can be pulled off.

wear a shirt but rip of sleeves so it doesn't look like your trying to hide it

i seen it work, some fat guys can actually pull that look off pretty good assuming from what i saw last time i was on the beach
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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great advice guys for being on the actual beach, let me add this to the convo, this place is a bar, and i mainly stay in the bar area. would treat this more like day game or night game? would you go more direct or indirect?
 
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