Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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So I met this girl at the club 2 nights ago and we got talking, then to dancing, then to kissing, then to her putting her hands down my pants and telling me she wants to **** me. Bare in mind it was her that made the first move as well. Anyway, for various reasons I couldn't that night (not really important). This was at about half 12 at night and we had both been pre-drinking a couple of hours before. At the time I was careful because I don't think a girl has come on to me that strongly before so maybe she was pretty plastered. After a while I lost her (by accident) then didn't see her for the rest of the night. Luckily I got her number just before. She text me the next morning not knowing who I was, when I told her what happened she only remembered vaguely. Not sure how though considering it was only about 12:30. I'm trying to get her out next week but we break up for the semester in a week. What do you guys think? If I can't get her out next week should I bother? It sometimes takes her a while to reply to my texts although we have been talking a lot. Now we know a bit about each other except she only knows my appearance by my FB picture when I told her who I was. What do you guys think I should do and do you think she's still interested? (We're both 18 by the way as far as I know)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Only way to know if she's interested is to ask her out.

Sounds like she was plastered though. 12.30 am is plenty time to get trollied.
 

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Outcomes similar to your own are quite commonplace in that sort of setting - get used to it. Sometimes they bear fruit, usually not though. Whatever you did with that girl, the whole song and dance (so to speak), do that with as many girls as you can throughout the night whenever you do decide to go out in order to train yourself in the fine art of what is colloquially referred to as "not giving a fvck"
 

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sylvester the cat said:
Only way to know if she's interested is to ask her out.

Sounds like she was plastered though. 12.30 am is plenty time to get trollied.
My plan is to ask her out after/if I see her next week on the night. I basically text her saying she come with me and that I really enjoyed spending time with her that night.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Between_The_Lines said:
Outcomes similar to your own are quite commonplace in that sort of setting - get used to it. Sometimes they bear fruit, usually not though. Whatever you did with that girl, the whole song and dance (so to speak), do that with as many girls as you can throughout the night whenever you do decide to go out in order to train yourself in the fine art of what is colloquially referred to as "not giving a fvck"
Yeah I understand that mentality. But I'm gonna try anyway since we live near each other and go to the same uni. Plus she is really hot. Not sure how much to read into that night out. I should also note that when I asked her how drunk she was, she said 'sober enough to know I really like you'

I'm finding it tricky to read her through texts, but I'm pretty confident about the situation if i can meet up with her on that night out.
 

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Greeves said:
Yeah I understand that mentality. But I'm gonna try anyway since we live near each other and go to the same uni. Plus she is really hot. Not sure how much to read into that night out. I should also note that when I asked her how drunk she was, she said 'sober enough to know I really like you'

I'm finding it tricky to read her through texts, but I'm pretty confident about the situation if i can meet up with her on that night out.
You're reinforcing my original point. Pursue anyway, certainly, there's knowledge to be extracted from it, but the more you 'rubic cube-ify' her, the deeper you're going to sink into a weaker mentality. Other than the fact that you're making a move on this girl, the best takeway that I see from your situation is that you landed on this site at your age - not to toot this forum's horn. Future looks bright for you.
 

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Between_The_Lines said:
You're reinforcing my original point. Pursue anyway, certainly, there's knowledge to be extracted from it, but the more you 'rubic cube-ify' her, the deeper you're going to sink into a weaker mentality. Other than the fact that you're making a move on this girl, the best takeway that I see from your situation is that you landed on this site at your age - not to toot this forum's horn. Future looks bright for you.
Makes sense, thanks for the advise.
 

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Greeves said:
Really? Why wouldn't she want to know? :confused:
Oh she definitely would want to know if she's interested that is. I said she doesn't NEED to know.

The more info you give the less power you have. This goes for anything. Not just relationships.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Oh she definitely would want to know if she's interested that is. I said she doesn't NEED to know.

The more info you give the less power you have. This goes for anything. Not just relationships.
OK thanks for the advise.
 

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You had an opportunity to fcuk her for whatever reason you couldn't. That opportunity is gone. To reenact that situation, chances are slim.

If you'd get this girl reduce your speed, you're caring too much, pushing too much to see her and stop reminding yourself how hot she is, it won't work in your favor.

Situations like you described happens to the lucky guy at the right place at the right time and almost always ends there hence ONS except if you knew each other prior (in same social group) or you both were flirting heavily while sober.

Your best bet is focus on other activities and girls.

With this girl invite her over (make sure you have alcohol at home) and take it from there. This is not a dinner and movies and be my girlfriend situation, this is a let's fcuk this aggression out of our systems situation.
 
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