"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Any ideas of ACTION dates?

Shivastorm_88

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I find it hard to find some... I got quite a few but I'd like to find some more

so far I got:

Workout (can invite 6 person at my gym so it isn't unlimited)
squash
pool
Small-town zoo near my house
Bowling if I can find where it is
Arcade
Parks of course (play some soccer or football or whatnot)
anything else?

Just list anything you guys usually do and I'll see if I would be up to it or if it's possible near my area
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Jay Jay

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What I try to do is ask a few questions pre-date which lets me know the girls interests and then work around that.

Some other ideas.

Live music.
Markets/ Groovey shops.
Art Galleries/ Exhibitions.
Dancing.
 

comic_relief

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how about a search for action dates?

play grounds, (actual) dances (square dance, swing dance, or something else that is a real dance. GRINDING IS NOT A DANCE!!!), and elsewhere that is fun.

Some of my best dates were at the playgrounds though.

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aussiegoat55

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A question first, what defines an action date from a non action date? Or to better define action date, what's a good example of a non action date.

Action dates:
- Go exploring in a different city, get out and walk around, go in shops, restaurants, but be sure to go to an interesting spot
- Walk around cultural pockets in the city like Little Tokyo, Chinatown, Koreatown, Little India
- Go for a walk
- The beach, surfing, kite surfing, wind surfing, body surfing, boogie boarding, swimming
- Kayaking, canoeing, rowing
- Biking
- Farmer's Markets, buy veggies and fruits and then cook together, or have her cook for you.
- Amusement parks, $$$ parking, food, admission, they get you in the a$$
- Museums, Art Fairs, go to art galleries
- Use public transportation, rails, bus, get lost if you want and try to find your way around
- Parks, tag, hide and go seek, frisbee, soccer
- Ice skating
- Do a 5k/10k run or if you're ambitious marathon, triathlon
- Volunteer
- Scavenger hunt
- Aquarium, zoo, planetarium
- Tidepools
- Camp, hike
- Dancing

Just try new things, do things you want to do and she might want to do, have fun, play, relax, explore, take adventures. Basically it's all about having fun.

I keep a list of action dates, non action dates, good non-chain restaurants, cool shopping centers, trendy areas, parks, drives, romantic locations, public transportation routes, activities all specific to the city (L.A.) so I usually don't run out of date ideas. I recommend making list for yourself.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Obsidian

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dang, that squash idea is actually a really good one, except I'd probably go with racquetball because it's way easier

And the dancing thing is pretty good, too. I took a girl with me to this swing dance event a few nights ago (first hour was a lesson), and she seemed to really like it. Girls really get off on dancing for some reason. Even dance classes provide a really good opportunity to meet and kino girls, in my experience.
 
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