"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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any advice would be nice and greatly appreciated

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i've seen some posts on here that are really long and personally sometimes im too lazy to read them. with that said im gonna try and keep mine short and to the point.

i met a girl in a bar kinda...she was really drunk and i couldnt approach because im pretty sure her friends were gonna get the wrong idea if i did approach her in that state of drunkness. i hit her up on facebook made some small talk and got her number. we texted a while (which i know was a bad idea according to other posts ive read on here) we talked on the phone all that kinda stuff. we set up the first date and she flaked on me, she txted me the next day saying sorry and offering another date with no actual day set. a week passes and i make contact to follow up on date and she never responds. the weekend comes around and out of nowhere she texts me asking if i had plans. i told her where i was gonna be and to my surprise she shows up. we had a couple of drinks danced laughed had fun then she left because she had to meet up with some other friends for a bday party. well after that nite she told me to call her to meet up afterwards when the clubs close to go eat and i did and she never responded and still hasn't......now my question should i just go no contact or should i make initial contact??
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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i guess this is where my pride has to kick in and just move on....
 

zer0game

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You have a point there is nothing to move on from! Thanks for making it simple to undrrstand sometimes over analyzing just messes with your head too much.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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zer0game said:
i've seen some posts on here that are really long and personally sometimes im too lazy to read them. with that said im gonna try and keep mine short and to the point.

i met a girl in a bar kinda...she was really drunk and i couldnt approach because im pretty sure her friends were gonna get the wrong idea if i did approach her in that state of drunkness. i hit her up on facebook made some small talk and got her number. we texted a while (which i know was a bad idea according to other posts ive read on here) we talked on the phone all that kinda stuff. we set up the first date and she flaked on me, she txted me the next day saying sorry and offering another date with no actual day set. a week passes and i make contact to follow up on date and she never responds. the weekend comes around and out of nowhere she texts me asking if i had plans. i told her where i was gonna be and to my surprise she shows up. we had a couple of drinks danced laughed had fun then she left because she had to meet up with some other friends for a bday party. well after that nite she told me to call her to meet up afterwards when the clubs close to go eat and i did and she never responded and still hasn't......now my question should i just go no contact or should i make initial contact??
she's not into you. It's flagrantly clear IMO.
 
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