"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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any advice would be nice and greatly appreciated

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i've seen some posts on here that are really long and personally sometimes im too lazy to read them. with that said im gonna try and keep mine short and to the point.

i met a girl in a bar kinda...she was really drunk and i couldnt approach because im pretty sure her friends were gonna get the wrong idea if i did approach her in that state of drunkness. i hit her up on facebook made some small talk and got her number. we texted a while (which i know was a bad idea according to other posts ive read on here) we talked on the phone all that kinda stuff. we set up the first date and she flaked on me, she txted me the next day saying sorry and offering another date with no actual day set. a week passes and i make contact to follow up on date and she never responds. the weekend comes around and out of nowhere she texts me asking if i had plans. i told her where i was gonna be and to my surprise she shows up. we had a couple of drinks danced laughed had fun then she left because she had to meet up with some other friends for a bday party. well after that nite she told me to call her to meet up afterwards when the clubs close to go eat and i did and she never responded and still hasn't......now my question should i just go no contact or should i make initial contact??
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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i guess this is where my pride has to kick in and just move on....
 
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You have a point there is nothing to move on from! Thanks for making it simple to undrrstand sometimes over analyzing just messes with your head too much.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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zer0game said:
i've seen some posts on here that are really long and personally sometimes im too lazy to read them. with that said im gonna try and keep mine short and to the point.

i met a girl in a bar kinda...she was really drunk and i couldnt approach because im pretty sure her friends were gonna get the wrong idea if i did approach her in that state of drunkness. i hit her up on facebook made some small talk and got her number. we texted a while (which i know was a bad idea according to other posts ive read on here) we talked on the phone all that kinda stuff. we set up the first date and she flaked on me, she txted me the next day saying sorry and offering another date with no actual day set. a week passes and i make contact to follow up on date and she never responds. the weekend comes around and out of nowhere she texts me asking if i had plans. i told her where i was gonna be and to my surprise she shows up. we had a couple of drinks danced laughed had fun then she left because she had to meet up with some other friends for a bday party. well after that nite she told me to call her to meet up afterwards when the clubs close to go eat and i did and she never responded and still hasn't......now my question should i just go no contact or should i make initial contact??
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she's not into you. It's flagrantly clear IMO.
 
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