"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I'm going to stop giving advice, because the minute i think my game is up to par, i'm left standing in the streets dumbfounded.

I met a really hot girl at a local club. She approached me and we hit it off pretty good. We had things in common--we both modeled in the past and we both have advanced degrees. I kept the conversation short and sweet and i ended with a number close.

I was really busy, so i didn't call her for dam near a week. When i finally called her, her first words to me were "Tristan, i'm so glad you called, i didn't think you were going to call." Anyways, i broke the golden rule-- i talked to her on the phone for almost an hour. The conversation flowed nicely and there was no awkward silence, so that's why i talked to her for so long.

Due to conflicting schedules and her being on vacation, we havn't went out.

I called her yesterday to set up a date for when she returns from vacation. While talking, the phone connection broke up and her cell phone dropped the call. I didn't call her back and she never called me back.

I am a little ticked off, because i was hoping to get a chance to know this girl, but it's apparent she no longer has interest in me. If the interest was still there, she would have called me back...right?

In conclusion, the rules written in the bible are written for a reason. Read them carefully and apply them to your everyday lives. I had a girl swinging from my n_ts and then i broke a valuable rule, and now i'm left standing in the dust!

FOLLOW THE RULES!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Originally posted by tristan22
While talking, the phone connection broke up and her cell phone dropped the call. I didn't call her back and she never called me back.

I am a little ticked off, because i was hoping to get a chance to know this girl, but it's apparent she no longer has interest in me. If the interest was still there, she would have called me back...right?
Bro, she is probably thinking the same thing you are.

You said yourself that she was happy you called.
Some girls dont want to seem desperate, thus creating a power struggle.

Your call on calling her back. I would this time.

When I talk to them I like to finish with the ball in her court. You didnt get that chance and neither did she.
 

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From my personal experience, girls love it if you call back on a dropped call. My gf's (and hell even female friends who have other female friends they can hook you up with) always say "Aw, you called me back! I thought you wouldn't care". Also, I never had any problems talking for an hr on the phone with women. Usually, because if we get all the talking out on the phone, thats more "action" (not sex action... just action as in DOING things) we get to do in person.
 

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No the call broke up on the second phone call to her. THe first phone call happened a week ago!
 

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Originally posted by tristan22
No the call broke up on the second phone call to her. THe first phone call happened a week ago!
IMO, that doesnt change anything. I feel that there is a power struggle going on right now.

I would call her back, but not be all AFC about it.

Funny/****y comments about how you know she was waiting by the phone would be good. :woo:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I would call her back still... like tonight... something like "Hey didn't get to finish making our date plans..." So she knows YOU are still interested.
 

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In conclusion, the rules written in the bible are written for a reason. Read them carefully and apply them to your everyday lives. I had a girl swinging from my n_ts and then i broke a valuable rule, and now i'm left standing in the dust!


dont do this

your 1 hour talk...helped not hurt.
 

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Originally posted by tristan22
No the call broke up on the second phone call to her. THe first phone call happened a week ago!
And the first phone call went great right?!?!? then she was busy with work and vacation... so let me ask you if YOU called the second time and it hung up, then why didn't you call back. see the thing is that females tend to think this way "he calls, signal fades, communication is crapy, phone hangs up accidentaly whatever is is HE called and HE should call back...yes, indeed we are stubborn :mad:
 

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I called back, it rolled over to voice mail; and i didn't leave a message. Then i didn't call back......i didn't add this in my story...sorry!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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leave a message:

tell her youve been busy..just wanted to say hey whats up...be funny and cute...and tell her not to think of u to many times.
 

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Originally posted by tristan22
I called back, it rolled over to voice mail; and i didn't leave a message. Then i didn't call back......i didn't add this in my story...sorry!
Ok..Gosh this is what I tell every guy:

let's say that at the moment when you called she did not have signal, so of course what you'll get is her voicemail...BUT did you realize that if you do not leave a message she'll NEVER know you you called because since she did not have signal then your call actually did not go through and will not show as a missed call! :nono:
 

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Originally posted by tobiashunter
Yeah, even if it is "Hey it's Tristan." That will mean ALOT to her.
Exactly. Stop the little kid stuff. Sometimes guys think far too hard when trying to "game" a chick

My general rule is:

If you feel you WANT to call her then call her.
If you feel you HAVE to then don't.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Oh man. I think you're taking this whole DJ stuff way too seriously. I mean the only stuff this whole DJ thing should teach you is that women like self-confident, not wussy, crappy men and so on. You get my point? If you called her every day and she never called you and you never went on a date..thats something you should avoid. But **** it if the phone call broke up, just call her back but cut this whole conversation stuff and ask her out. If she's still interested you'll get to date her, if she isn't you won't..but where's the big deal..u dont even know her like that. Even if she lost interest in you because you broke some "DJ rule" (though talking to women on the phone for (an) hour(s) probably is a bad idea...because it takes way from the excitement I guess..AND because it gives u a major headache :D ) it doesn' matter because you probably won't see her again. One thing this whole Don Juan stuff here should teach you also is that it doesn't matter (too much) what other people/women think, because you can still just next them and try one of the other 3billion women on this planet..
 

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You should've called back or at least left a message. "Hey, it's Tristan, you probably fell asleep waiting a callback from me, so call me when you get a chance to finalize or plans..."
 

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One thing this whole Don Juan stuff here should teach you also is that it doesn't matter (too much) what other people/women think, because you can still just next them and try one of the other 3billion women on this planet.. [/B]


YES! YES! YES! Sooo right!!! I don't like when guys let one stupid btch put them down...there are millions of us out there guys! just say NEXT!
 

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YES! YES! YES! Sooo right!!! I don't like when guys let one stupid btch put them down...there are millions of us out there guys! just say NEXT!
Good to know, that there are millions of you stupid *****es out there?:D
 

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Originally posted by madgame
Good to know, that there are millions of you stupid *****es out there?:D
:crackup: :crackup:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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