"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Another Lady asking for advice
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I personally believe he is probably a REAL DJ. In the sense that he has some qualities that over-shadow the fact he is not interested in committing with you or anyone.kathy said:Well for what its worth I did walk away in January. It wasnt the first time tho. He has me hooked. Im really just trying to understand what it is about him that Im having a hard time letting go of, and what that says about me
I past history of cheating. The last two women that were involved with me in a SERIOUS and COMMITTED relationship sensed that about me (they suspected that I cheated in past relationships). And do you know what? They were willing to overlook that part of my past. They were willing to overlook a lot of things (although, I suspect that if I cheated on them, they would have dumped me) about my past. The reason was because I had qualities that far outweighted my past indiscretions.
I sense your situation is like that.
However, here is the difference...he is openly sleeping with another woman and he does not have ANY desire to be in a serious relationship with you (I am assuming you have asked for it and he declined).
iqqi
Master Don Juan
It says you are desperate. Now go read KILL THAT DESPERATION by the great Pook.kathy said:Well for what its worth I did walk away in January. It wasnt the first time tho. He has me hooked. Im really just trying to understand what it is about him that Im having a hard time letting go of, and what that says about me
Gee thanks alot iggiiqqi said:It says you are desperate. Now go read KILL THAT DESPERATION by the great Pook.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I would be careful with what I would share as men and women are DIFFERENT. There is not such thing as "female" DJs ad DJism is about masculinity.iqqi said:It says you are desperate. Now go read KILL THAT DESPERATION by the great Pook.
I have always said that there are considerably more "quality women" than "Real DJs" (as defined by me) out there. And I am sure Kathy knows that too.
One of the reasons I am in a relationship (and not sleeping around) is because my current girlfriend treats me with respect. She is AVAILABLE for me. And she also knows when to say no and do not accept any disrespect. She also has other things that I like a lot (she is VERY sexy...VERY attractive...educated...professional...has NO "daddy" issues...it is not a single mother...and does not sleep around).
I preach men to become DJs...and women to become Quality women. I feel that the sooner you start working toward that (DJ and Quality Woman) the better.
Applying the advice designed for man...can actually back fire.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
Most of the Pook articles and the DJ Bible material are about respecting yourself, and being a better person. It does apply to women. You just have to read between the lines. Of course I didn't apply anything he said about how to bulk up and not be skinny. But his wisdom applies to men, AND women, when it comes to relationships, especially the one with yourself.Latinoman said:I would be careful with what I would share as men and women are DIFFERENT. There is not such thing as "female" DJs ad DJism is about masculinity.
I have always said that there are considerably more "quality women" than "Real DJs" (as defined by me) out there. And I am sure Kathy knows that too.
One of the reasons I am in a relationship (and not sleeping around) is because my current girlfriend treats me with respect. She is AVAILABLE for me. And she also knows when to say no and do not accept any disrespect. She also has other things that I like a lot (she is VERY sexy...VERY attractive...educated...professional...has NO "daddy" issues...it is not a single mother...and does not sleep around).
I preach men to become DJs...and women to become Quality women. I feel that the sooner you start working toward that (DJ and Quality Woman) the better.
Applying the advice designed for man...can actually back fire.
Besides, we have different opinions on what is masculine and feminine. I think yours is way too extreme, but on the right track.
As far as the Bible goes, not being desperate, respecting oneself, and improving oneself, are neither masculine nor feminine qualities, IMO.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
iqqi said:Most of the Pook articles and the DJ Bible material are about respecting yourself, and being a better person. It does apply to women. You just have to read between the lines. Of course I didn't apply anything he said about how to bulk up and not be skinny. But his wisdom applies to men, AND women, when it comes to relationships, especially the one with yourself.
Besides, we have different opinions on what is masculine and feminine. I think yours is way too extreme, but on the right track.
As far as the Bible goes, not being desperate, respecting oneself, and improving oneself, are neither masculine nor feminine qualities, IMO.
Here is the thing...I don't like reading between lines when it comes to SERIOUS advice that can change people's life.
POOK seems to be some kind of legend for some of you. Personally, I don't know much about the guy...so, I have to take everything he writes with a grain of salt. He writes well...and so does a lot of people.
My advice is based on personal experience...and based on the actual person asking the advice. My advice to Kathy could be completely different to advice I might give Penkitten...if both women were under the same circunstances. As advice can change depending on who the "players" are. Heck, my advice to Kathy can change if I get additional information that can make me reconsider.
Now...I agree that self-improvement (career, etc.) is sexless.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
"A forum for DJs at least 25 years old to discuss problems, situations, and techniques UNIQUE to older and more mature men."
Is there a catch-all thread somewhere posted by the administrator which explains the obvious contradiction between these forum headings and what actually is allowed here? Heck, even our largest "Don Juan Discussion" heading says: "Discuss meeting, dating, and attracting women with others. Ask a question or give advice." Lets maybe sticky this thread, if it exists, so I'm a little less confused!
(No offense intended, Kathy)