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So..yous struggling. Lukewarm interest at best but...she is hot...big azz nice face yadiya. Her IL? Mwah...at best. You can feel it. Your pride and honour told you LONG time ago to feck that bytch and cut contact( she is nobody and won't ever be anybody to YOU. )

You grinding. Checking all those cliche boxes. The physical, the financial, the spiritual . You KNOW you should be valued at a higher rate, but yet you cant control what WOMEN feel. And for some reason that or those that understand your value never cross your patk..

You know you need some. So you keep entertaining EVERY woman that shows a glimpse of interest . One is better than zero right???


But then...shyte starts to shift. Suddenly women start showing you the EXACT behaviour yous been longing for. Women act like they suppose to. Feminine, submissive, letting you lead, adjusting to YOUR schedule.

It's like night versus day. But..you are beating to pulp by those lukewarm interested women. You are USED to getting rejected. So ..your sceptical behaviour might turn off these new wave of women ..


Give me your take on this gents..
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Women are all different. My take is to just talk to more of them.

The girl I f***ed on New Year's Eve in Philadelphia was a Tinder match that I was unsure of because she seemed low interest. She wasn't very responsive, the responses didn't seem that interested, she was staying with friends while visiting, so her place was a no-go...there were just so many things that led me to believe she would be a waste of my time.

It got to the point where I wrote her off and watched the ball drop at a local bar, which was an hour away from her. I was still having text conversations with her up until that point when I finally bluntly voiced my concern to her; I told her that I think she's very attractive, but that it sounded like she was more interested in being taken out by SOMEBODY, rather than being interested in going out with ME.

As you might recall, she responded that if she were only interested in going out, she would've just gone out with her friends.

I made the drive, met up with her, and ended up f***ing her in the back seat of my Prius later that night.

There was also the girl from LR - 100 who wanted our date to be early enough that she could hang out with her friends afterwards. I initially wrote her off too, explaining that I understand she's graduating and wants to spend time with her friends, but that she's not really all that interested in going on a date then.

I figured that was the end of it...but then I woke up to messages from her continuing the conversation, looking to make a compromise. And I ended up f***ing her after our second date.

So basically, TL;DR don't self-eject and burn down the interaction at the first signs of resistance. If she's showing you interest, even a slight amount, it can be worth taking the chance on letting things play out.
 

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I’m trying to fully get what you’re saying here. Are you implying you’re more drawn to women who give you lukewarm, hot-and-cold energy over the ones who are actually down for you from the start? Is it because the lukewarm woman is hotter, higher SMV, or more suitors?

Personally, unless there’s something way off about them, like missing teeth, extremally thirsty, a bad personality, addictions like heavy smoking, or being severely out of shape, I tend to let the ones who are into me come through. I give them what they’re looking for. I can entertain them. I can be shared. I don’t discriminate.

The hot-and-cold one? She can get it too if she wants.

Edit: I’m probably missing a bunch of other parameters that determine why I wouldn't take things seriously with certain women on a romantic level.
 
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So..yous struggling. Lukewarm interest at best but...she is hot...big azz nice face yadiya. Her IL? Mwah...at best. You can feel it. Your pride and honour told you LONG time ago to feck that bytch and cut contact( she is nobody and won't ever be anybody to YOU. )

You grinding. Checking all those cliche boxes. The physical, the financial, the spiritual . You KNOW you should be valued at a higher rate, but yet you cant control what WOMEN feel. And for some reason that or those that understand your value never cross your patk..

You know you need some. So you keep entertaining EVERY woman that shows a glimpse of interest . One is better than zero right???


But then...shyte starts to shift. Suddenly women start showing you the EXACT behaviour yous been longing for. Women act like they suppose to. Feminine, submissive, letting you lead, adjusting to YOUR schedule.

It's like night versus day. But..you are beating to pulp by those lukewarm interested women. You are USED to getting rejected. So ..your sceptical behaviour might turn off these new wave of women ..


Give me your take on this gents..
It's an unintentional chess move. But they'll be alright...
 

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I’m trying to fully get what you’re saying here. Are you implying you’re more drawn to women who give you lukewarm, hot-and-cold energy over the ones who are actually down for you from the start? Is it because the lukewarm woman is hotter, higher SMV, or more suitors?

Personally, unless there’s something way off about them, like missing teeth, extremally thirsty, a bad personality, addictions like heavy smoking, or being severely out of shape, I tend to let the ones who are into me come through. I give them what they’re looking for. I can entertain them. I can be shared. I don’t discriminate.

The hot-and-cold one? She can get it too if she wants.

Edit: I’m probably missing a bunch of other parameters that determine why I wouldn't take things seriously with certain women on a romantic level.
No I am sorry I was sick so i couldn't respond.

I meant that when a man is " struggling " mong enough, he will see lukewarm interest from women as the new norm( while in reality women SHOULD Hiroshima the F outta you!) .

So albeit most men complain/ warn about lobe bombs, it's basically the best thing, or at least better than dealing with lukewarm interest.

It's funny to see how multiple women respond the same during the same time frame.

(Hypothetical dates)
- jan1 you're dealing with 3 women, and all 3 of them reject you with the same kinda reasons.

- June 1 you're dealing with 3 new women, and all 3 of them love bomb you and wanna move fast.

It's yet one of the many amazing intricacies of dating in general. Also one that a man (IMO) only can achieve by moving on when it's time to move on and by NEVER entertaining/rewarding women that make you stand in the back of her line of fans...in other words ; have enough confidence to realize that a new woman will ALWAYS show up. Always..
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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It's an unintentional chess move. But they'll be alright...
I sometimes make my threads kinda unhinged and too poetic.

What I tried to say is that IF a man follows the steps that " we " recommended, sooner or later the floodgates WILL open and things will change for the better.

Simultaneously, it's kinda scary to see how we as men adjust to whatever we get. So if it's Lukewarm interest we get, we'll adjust and take that as the " best we can do".

E.g I've literally lost many " friends" because they entered their midlife crisis and went from having no woman for years to laying in bed with a woman on a daily ( aka cohabitation). All of them forced these dynamics by either "buying " love or passport bro-ing . Whenever I do speak to them they don't EVER mention the thousands of conversations we had about male /female dynamics. All of the previous knowledge goes out the window. They put all their chips on "that one woman" who basically treats them like shyte, but the IMAGE of having a woman/ wife is more important to them than having peace of mind..

The part I bolted should (IMO) be achieved in a natural way . You can't go from a 4 year long dryspell to living together without any steps in between. You can't go from 4 years not even having dates to sharing a space with a ( strange) woman 24/7 . A man gotta know how to deal with female nature.

I kinda prove to them that if they would've waited and spend all that money and energy on THEMSELVES, they would sooner or later enter a stage where they would be able to PICK from multiple women who'd be love bombing them ( aka show their best FEMININE behavior) instead of taking up the first woman that has bad enough conditions in her life so she picks you( knowing she'll monkeybrance sooner or later )

Summary: a man SHOULD get lovebombed. And on top of that he shouldn't even be taken aback by it as it should be "normal female behavior ".

If you find women acting nonchalant about the prospect of dating you , okay..it's just life being dead honest with you about your current situation. You need improvement.

Women will come and go . The more you level up, the faster they'll show up.
 

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No I am sorry I was sick so i couldn't respond.

I meant that when a man is " struggling " mong enough, he will see lukewarm interest from women as the new norm( while in reality women SHOULD Hiroshima the F outta you!) .

So albeit most men complain/ warn about lobe bombs, it's basically the best thing, or at least better than dealing with lukewarm interest.

It's funny to see how multiple women respond the same during the same time frame.

(Hypothetical dates)
- jan1 you're dealing with 3 women, and all 3 of them reject you with the same kinda reasons.

- June 1 you're dealing with 3 new women, and all 3 of them love bomb you and wanna move fast.

It's yet one of the many amazing intricacies of dating in general. Also one that a man (IMO) only can achieve by moving on when it's time to move on and by NEVER entertaining/rewarding women that make you stand in the back of her line of fans...in other words ; have enough confidence to realize that a new woman will ALWAYS show up. Always..
So basically there is something in the water? Or love comes when you least expected?

Not sure if I have experienced this pattern you speak of though :(
 

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So basically there is something in the water? Or love comes when you least expected?

Not sure if I have experienced this pattern you speak of though :(
This might be the story of the kid that had all odds against him, some will say a Moses like story. It's a path that ain't given to most men. Mind you, that NOT an insult: under ideal/ better circumstances a man shouldn't have been loss by birth like I've been. This is mainly due to my father who never gave a single F and made me fight at least twice as hard in life to achieve anything AND learn much more.

If a man is behind I this rat race it's on HIM to first get by and next get up in the race. Once he does tho..all kinds of beautiful things will happen. Especially women will eventually pick up in it .

Is there something in the water? Depending on what YOU( the protagonist) throws in the water..you either poison the well or you make it flourish .

For the people in the back of the class: level up and sooner or later you WILL reap the benefits. Women are just...women ( amazing creatures by the way). But still "just" women because they will follow their instincts. It's on us to trigger those instincts ( as a BYPRODUCT). No higher math here, just clichés that are true but take hard work nevertheless.

@Clockwerk50 it's amazing how weak we as men became. By just holding on firmly to the believe of the CREATION of the best version of yourself you will be ahead of most men. Time will tell tbe truth.
 

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Roll with it, have fun, just keep the pace healthy. I’m glad the sun is starting to shine for you. Don’t overthink it
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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So..yous struggling. Lukewarm interest at best but...she is hot...big azz nice face yadiya. Her IL? Mwah...at best. You can feel it. Your pride and honour told you LONG time ago to feck that bytch and cut contact( she is nobody and won't ever be anybody to YOU. )

You grinding. Checking all those cliche boxes. The physical, the financial, the spiritual . You KNOW you should be valued at a higher rate, but yet you cant control what WOMEN feel. And for some reason that or those that understand your value never cross your patk..

You know you need some. So you keep entertaining EVERY woman that shows a glimpse of interest . One is better than zero right???


But then...shyte starts to shift. Suddenly women start showing you the EXACT behaviour yous been longing for. Women act like they suppose to. Feminine, submissive, letting you lead, adjusting to YOUR schedule.

It's like night versus day. But..you are beating to pulp by those lukewarm interested women. You are USED to getting rejected. So ..your sceptical behaviour might turn off these new wave of women ..


Give me your take on this gents..
It is, what it is. It's like cold approaching, after a few approaches (success or unsuccessful) your confidence skyrockets, you're more at ease. Confidence is a funny thing.
I beleive in fate.
 

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I sometimes make my threads kinda unhinged and too poetic.

What I tried to say is that IF a man follows the steps that " we " recommended, sooner or later the floodgates WILL open and things will change for the better.

Simultaneously, it's kinda scary to see how we as men adjust to whatever we get. So if it's Lukewarm interest we get, we'll adjust and take that as the " best we can do".

E.g I've literally lost many " friends" because they entered their midlife crisis and went from having no woman for years to laying in bed with a woman on a daily ( aka cohabitation). All of them forced these dynamics by either "buying " love or passport bro-ing . Whenever I do speak to them they don't EVER mention the thousands of conversations we had about male /female dynamics. All of the previous knowledge goes out the window. They put all their chips on "that one woman" who basically treats them like shyte, but the IMAGE of having a woman/ wife is more important to them than having peace of mind..

The part I bolted should (IMO) be achieved in a natural way . You can't go from a 4 year long dryspell to living together without any steps in between. You can't go from 4 years not even having dates to sharing a space with a ( strange) woman 24/7 . A man gotta know how to deal with female nature.

I kinda prove to them that if they would've waited and spend all that money and energy on THEMSELVES, they would sooner or later enter a stage where they would be able to PICK from multiple women who'd be love bombing them ( aka show their best FEMININE behavior) instead of taking up the first woman that has bad enough conditions in her life so she picks you( knowing she'll monkeybrance sooner or later )

Summary: a man SHOULD get lovebombed. And on top of that he shouldn't even be taken aback by it as it should be "normal female behavior ".

If you find women acting nonchalant about the prospect of dating you , okay..it's just life being dead honest with you about your current situation. You need improvement.

Women will come and go . The more you level up, the faster they'll show up.
Good post, i'll add my two cents. I think both sexes like to have the opposite in their life. Men like to have the feminine in their life.
However, you are correct in advising to keep your standards high and not to settle, kind of general advice on here and also a post in DJ bible.
I still think it's natural for a man to want some femininity in his life though.
 
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