An Interview With God

[Super_geek]

You missed the point of science being backed up by evidence and bible having NO EVIDENCE. If you aren't sure of something why can't you just be neutral instead of conforming? how do u know there's anything after death?

The evidence you are refering to (or lack of it) only says that many of the events in the Bible did not take place. This is not the same as proving that God doesnt exist. The bible can be totally false, but a divine creator, God may still exist.

As of right now, we have no evidence telling us which is the case. So Science is no more on the Atheist's side than it is on the Theist's side. This was my point, I think you missed it.

 

[CCKazi007]

The evidence you are reffering to (or lack of it) only says that many of the events in the Bible did not take place. This is not the same as proving that God doesnt exist. The bible can be totally false, but a divine creator, God may still exist.

As of right now, we have no evidence telling us which is the case. So Science is no more on the Atheist's side than it is on the Theist's side.

The bible is FALSE it claims the EARTH to be few thousand years old, but science proved through carbon dating that the Earth is in fact millions of years old. Why do Christian go to church and read the bible to worship GOD? Why would they even read the bible if they know it's FALSE? God may still exist...so from that perspective Santa and Ghosts exist too right? you can't PROVE a fictional being. The truth is we're all the same decaying organic matter of the world and once we die we return to nature. Most people are depressed and want to become part of something bigger than them just to feel better about themselves.

 

[Super_geek]

The bible is FALSE it claims the EARTH to be few thousand years old, but science proved through carbon dating that the Earth is in fact millions of years old. Why do Christian go to church and read the bible to worship GOD? Why would they even read the bible if they know it's FALSE? God may still exist...so from that perspective Santa and Ghosts exist too right? you can't PROVE a fictional being. The truth is we're all the same decaying organic matter of the world and once we die we return to nature. Most people are depressed and want to become part of something bigger than them just to feel better about themselves.

Okay, thats fine. We know the earth is far older than a few thousands years according to scientific knowledge. Science also tells us many other claims and events in the bible are false. But how does knowing these scientific facts provide us with any information about the true existance of a being that exists outside of the physical world?

And that's a bad comparison; "god may exist" is not an equally rediculous statement as "santa may exist" as you suggest. Unlike god, there is scientific evidence that provide us with information that says its very unlikely that Santa exists. But as of right now, we have zero information about the existance of God. We have about as much information on this as we do on predicting the outcome of flipping a fair coin.

 

[CCKazi007]

Okay, thats fine. We know the earth is far older than a few thousands years according to scientific knowledge. Science also tells us many other claims and events in the bible are false. But how does knowing these scientific facts provide us with any information about the true existance of a being that exists outside of the physical world?

And that's a bad comparison; "god may exist" is not an equally rediculous statement as "santa may exist" as you suggest. Unlike god, there is scientific evidence that provide us with information that says its very unlikely that Santa exists. But as of right now, we have zero information about the existance of God. We have about as much information on this as we do on predicting the outcome of flipping a fair coin.

How is comparing "Santa" to "God" a bad comparison or a rediculous statement? they're both fictional and made up so they CAN'T be proved by science, because science is based on EVIDENCE and PROOF. The only differance between the two is the number of people that believe in the icon "God". We have zero information about the existance of God or Santa so to me they are in the SAME category. So to sum up your argument you believe that there's a "divine being" just because there's no scientific evidence that proves it false, well in that case "Santa" would work cuz there is no scientific evidence disproving his existance either so why don't you believe in him? well..... COMMON SENSE! can't you see? The problem with RELIGION is if God did exist wouldn't there be ONE RELIGION? instead of 200 different religions?

 

[Super_geek]

How is comparing "Santa" to "God" a bad comparison or a rediculous statement? they're both fictional and made up so they CAN'T be proved by science, because science is based on EVIDENCE and PROOF. The only differance between the two is the number of people that believe in the icon "God". We have zero information about the existance of God or Santa so to me they are in the SAME category. So to sum up your argument you believe that there's a "divine being" just because there's no scientific evidence that proves it false, well in that case "Santa" would work cuz there is no scientific evidence disproving his existance either so why don't you believe in him? well..... COMMON SENSE! can't you see? The problem with RELIGION is if God did exist wouldn't there be ONE RELIGION? instead of 200 different religions?

Youre not following logic.

We can use science to prove weither Santa exists or not. If santa does exist, he is a physical person living in this world and will leave physical evidence behind. We have not observed any of this physical evidence, therefore, its unlikely that he exists. Therefore, after observing the lack of this physical evidence, we have gained information about his existance. We already know he doesnt exist.

But unlike Santa, we have not observed any physical evidence to date that will provide us with information about the value of the "god's existance" variable. This variable will take on 2 values: either "God does exist" or "god does NOT exist". So far, we have not observed anything that provide us with any information about this binary variable's value. Therefore we have absolute uncertainty, this is radically different than what we have on the "santa's existance" variable. For the santa one, we know what value it takes on, it takes on the "santa does NOT exist" value given the physical evidence we have observed.

So you defy logic by saying they are the same. total uncertainty does not equal total certainty.

 

[Ripper]

The bible is FALSE it claims the EARTH to be few thousand years old, but science proved through carbon dating that the Earth is in fact millions of years old. Why do Christian go to church and read the bible to worship GOD? Why would they even read the bible if they know it's FALSE? God may still exist...so from that perspective Santa and Ghosts exist too right? you can't PROVE a fictional being. The truth is we're all the same decaying organic matter of the world and once we die we return to nature. Most people are depressed and want to become part of something bigger than them just to feel better about themselves.

You, like many others (including millions of Christians) completely misunderstand the point of the Bible. The Bible is NOT a scientific book. The Creation accounts in Genesis are NOT in competition with the Big Bang Theory. They were simply attempts by the people of the times (these particular stories being written in the Exile c.580 bc) to answer some of life's most fundamental questions. Questions such as why childbirth, one of, if not the most joyful event in a person's life is also the most painful? Why we do we want most what is specifically forbidden (Adam and Eve)? Again, just to re-iterate, the Bible is not scientific. It is a collection of narratives that tell the story of God and his chosen people.

 

[Ace of Flames]

"Aaaaand welcome back to the 700 club! Today we have the age-old discussion of Christianity vs. anything else. Of course, Christianity trumps all, as the mighty bible tells us, so we'll just let this play out for pure enjoyment."

 

[Taviii]

GOD's hand took mine... and we were silent for a while.

Is God gay?

 

[bbestar]

The bible claims the EARTH to be few thousand years old, but science proved through carbon dating that the Earth is in fact millions of years old.

CCKazi007, because I accepted God's Free Gift of Eternal Life I know in my heart the whole entirety of the bible is true.

CCKazi007, please tell me the exact passage in the bible that says "few thousand years".

 

[Desdinova]

I knew this thread would go to hell. Religious discussion is not permitted.

THREAD CLOSED.