an hour before first date, push back by one hour

[member160292]

kinda disagree … if you build too much report then you can be friend zoned or be put in the potentially boyfriend spot

you should not push for a date asap , but neither prolong it

ideally you will have a good feeling on when is to push for the date

your objective is to increase the buying temperature , not to increase report

Rapport* =P

Agreed, you have to get the timing of the dance about right.

I don't think it's a bad idea to be put in the BF spot, right?

 

[Bigpapa]

I don't think it's a bad idea to be put in the BF spot, right?

depends what you want …

But for me it is very important to know the girl , rather than her trying to put a different face . This is what happens when you go straight for the bf role . She will try to show only her best self , not the real self

 

[member160292]

Now I'm curious. Could playing the BF role lead to faster escalation?

 

[Bigpapa]

Now I'm curious. Could playing the BF role lead to faster escalation?

no , it will only things escalate towards sex harder

as she will be more interested not be seen as a sl8t by you than anything else

and this includes also how kinky the sex can be

when she does not see you as a potential bf but could be , she will be more libertine

 

[BackInTheGame78]

This is honestly just silly unless there is a valid reason. Just more trying to be something you aren't if you have to resort to this.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Balogney. I disagree. Stoicism might be a man trate but her nature will never see it that way.

Female nature always gravitates towards masculinity. In the long run, the “man traits” prevail over everything else. It is what she truly desires.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Women love selfish men. Its part of their nature as well.

No, actually they do not. You are dead wrong on this. Women love a man that only shares his resources with her. That is a very important distinction.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

this method was discovered and patented by me.
an hour before your first date, text her and say sorry I am [doing something masculine] and I thought I would be finished by now but let's meet at 7 instead of 6.

this provides you with several advantages
1) it shows you are masculine. I like to say I was fixing something, maybe my car
2) it makes you look less desperate. you have a life. girls are not your priority
3) it gives you something to talk about on the first date instead of looking weird. she will inquire. what was wrong with your car? and you explain and look even more masculine
4) it tests her interest. if she gives you attitude, you know she wasn't interested to begin with and you won't waste your time and money on a date

a lot of people say they don't like lying. they like polishing the truth, but not lying. if you have an ethical problem with lying then really work on your car an hour before the date.

only toxic females play dumb mind games like this not high value men

 

[EyeBRollin]

@EyeBRollin there is only 1 thing to women worse then a nice guy. That is a pedophile.

Being on time to one’s own scheduled date has nothing to do with being a “nice guy.”

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

All women play mind games bruh. Its part of the game. This forum is really getting off some key things in game lightly.
Even Shakespeare said all life is a stage. He was right.
Toxic females are drug addicts thieves and women who wont obey.

But rest assured that same obedient female can become a manipulator at a moments notice. It is evolved psychology.

This is why I advocate every male to only date women with genuine high interest in them. Girls with less than high interest in you get these constant petty games that are stupid. Yes, they play games with guys they have high interest in, but it's nowhere near the same level as the ones they have mixed and low interest level dudes jumping through.

In my Fraternity, the pledges that we liked got away with a lot more shvt than the pledges that we didn't care for lol. Girls do the same crap. If you only have fatties lusting after you then you need to raise your value. I'm sick of seeing black pill/red pill overweight low motivated men complain about women not wanting them like life is some fvcking Disney or Seth Rogan movie.

 

[EyeBRollin]

"To ones own schedule" lol yep you just reaffirmed my point. Lets not argue and let the guys who want to learn and apply find out whats true irl and not theory.
Talking about this with you is a waste of my time.

The advice you are pushing is detrimental. Men would be foolish to follow it. My advice- showing up on time to your own appointments- is as straightforward as it gets.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Old concept. On SS look up 'Antidumps Machine" pook has skme great posts on this.

It works, the vast majority of men are lazy and entitled and think a woman should be handed to them without any sacrifice. It's either be high value or accept sacrificing your time/money/attention to a woman.

 

[EyeBRollin]

If You doogooders werent so wrapped up in the nice guy chivalry you would be able to see by showing up late or after the girl you will get a good idea about her and her early frame announcement. And the DHV you can set right from the beginning. But meh i dont know nothing right bruh. Haha
But by all means dont play the game. We will do it for your women that you bore

This whole thread is pathetic. There is no game playing required in showing up to one’s own date. This is not rocket science.

 

[2Rocky]

If you guys pick her up for your date in your vehicle then you are truly leading the interaction.
Seriously I'm not taking a woman to dinner who doesn't trust me enough to let me know where she lives. If she is ambiguous onbeing ready on time, I'll find an errand to run and she can call me when ready.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

You might as well just pull out of the date completely. If you're going for gauging her interest level or looking to appear masculine, high value, etc. Pulling out an hour or two before with "something came up luv smh can we reschedule?". This is actually what I do when I feel like a girl hasn't give me enough evidence (pictures, dirty talk, reciprocation of sexual talk, fantasy discussions, etc) 6 out of the 6 girls I've done this with have ended up ****ing me when we did reschedule. So I see where OP is coming from, but I'd rather just completely pull out especially if I have options or other women/Plates who I know I will get sex from that evening, or want to go out with my friends. The ability to pull out on women is huge. It's allowed me to juggle multiple women because I have that confidence and experience of pulling out, so I never truly feel stuck with certain plans. You simply check back in with them a couple hours later, "Hey babes, my fault again smh I owe you big time" to smooth it out and let her know you have feelings.

 

[StacksHitEmUp]

If you do all this phony **** just to impress you a woman you’ve already lost. If you actually do have something going on then that’s fine, but if you don’t then that’s pathetic. It’s not about chivalry or whatever, it’s about going on a date and just enjoying yourself without putting up fake facades, that’s what women do as they should be the ones trying to impress you, not the other way around. Feels like scarcity mindset to me. Who gives a **** if she doesn’t see you as masculine or thinks you have nothing going on because you came on time. If she doesn’t appreciate you the next one will.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

If there's a "chance" we aren't having sex, I'll pull out of the date. High Value and alpha

 

[darksprezzatura]

Instead of playing external game. It might be helpful to actually get busy, make goals, work tirelessly towards them and prioritize them.

People are not stupid, they can see the cracks in a facade over time.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

Instead of playing external game. It might be helpful to actually get busy, make goals, work tirelessly towards them and prioritize them.

People are not stupid, they can see the cracks in a facade over time.

This is true and good advice for any human. You can be super high value, focus on your goals, become successful, but you still need to take action to get women. I'm tired of hearing people say focus on yourself and your goals. That should go un said. That's not the key to getting women. There's dudes with no job and no life goals banging women. It's just an excuse for beta males to ignore the real reasons they struggle with women. I agree OP's idea is questionable, but telling him to work on himself is not going to get him laid.