"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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an FB that see's me as a friend?

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i dont get it...

there's this one girl that comes over about once or so a week, talks about her problems, this and that, and then we ****...

now this is a girl in a relationship and **** so she talks bout her problems etc, and then things progress and almost every time we end up ****ing..

now my question is,
whats up with that?

i thought that if a girl does that, you've been friended, and you wont get any action...

i guess there's an exception to everything..
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Its not an exception, its normal. Girls like to talk about themselves and they do like guys who pay them this kind of attention.

Even my roommate and friend listen to girls whine and then proceed to f*ck them.
 

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You don't want to be her girlfriend. Sort of a different thing.
 

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good reply guys,

thanks for clearing that one up for me :)
 

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These are cases where you got to draw a line in the sand between pure game and looks. Clearly by gaming standards, getting a girl to talk about her problems to you is generally accepted as a VERY BAD move.

Why the discrepancy? Well what these "seduction gurus" who are out for your money will not tell you, or will try to significantly downplay, is PHYSICAL ATTRACTION. WOW!? What a concept! :rolleyes: Whoever thought that girls are not blind machines that you type in C+F lines and techniques into and get out whatever result you want!?

A girl that talks about her problems to a guy that SHE finds physically attractive = more than "just a friend"

A girl that talks about her problems to a guy that SHE does NOT find physically attractive = just a friend

In the end it is a convenient way for the girl to rationalize her actions and not look shallow/slutty. For example:

Not getting into a relationship with the "ugly friend" ---> "I don't want to ruin the 'friendship'" :rolleyes: (so she's not shallow :rolleyes:)

Having sex with the attractive "friend" ---> "Well I've known him for a while. So I'm not a slut."


Sorry guys, but girls care about looks too. :rolleyes: You can't explain everything by game alone. LOOKS MATTER. Yeah I said it. Big fuvking shock.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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By the way, I am not just BS'ing stuff off the type of my head. I have a female FRIEND (hehe) who is in the same situation. She talks about her problems to one guy she doesn't find physically attractive and does the same exact thing to the another guy that she DOES find physically attractive. They're both AFC's. Neither has much game at all, if any. However, just take a wild guess at who she's more interested in sleeping with.
 

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yeah...

only thing is i havent been able to progress it further then just an FB situation.... she's not interested in anything more.. yet i am... but im not gonna push it...

its just weird :confused:

if she finds me physically attractive, somebody that she can share her feelings with etc why not progress it further?

oh well, i'll keep spinning plates :)
 

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sav said:
yeah...

only thing is i havent been able to progress it further then just an FB situation.... she's not interested in anything more.. yet i am... but im not gonna push it...

its just weird :confused:

if she finds me physically attractive, somebody that she can share her feelings with etc why not progress it further?

oh well, i'll keep spinning plates :)
Personally, I don't know why you would want to progress from an FB relatioship. I used to f*ck a girl in college, similar situation, she would come over, b*tch about life for a while, then we f*ck, no strings attached...

What more can you ask for?
 

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sav said:
yeah...

only thing is i havent been able to progress it further then just an FB situation.... she's not interested in anything more.. yet i am... but im not gonna push it...

its just weird :confused:

if she finds me physically attractive, somebody that she can share her feelings with etc why not progress it further?

oh well, i'll keep spinning plates :)
By being a FB in the first place...she is basically showing you that she is not girlfriend material. Why WOULD you want to progress things forward with a slut? Cause that's what she is. Sluts have FB relationships, NOT girls who are girlfriend material.
 

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i guess both of you have a point....
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The B*tch Always Falls.

Sav, my man, you are real close to stepping out of the matrix. Just don't listen to these guys saying she's a slut. Figure out how you've pulled off this feat and you'll be swimming in *****.

Anyway, I have a warning.

I had a FB for about ten years. We wouldn't shag when either of us were in a commited relationship, but we'd always shag when we were both single or dating.

We'd even talk about the other people we were seeing whilst enjoying an after sex cigarette.

It SEEMED we were just "friends." But she fell eventually.

Hehe. Reminds me of how two of my best friends (lets call them J &H) had a conversation about FBs in front of one of J's FBs (they were on Es and didn't think about it at the time).

H said "eventually the b*tch always falls." J agreed.

She didn't say anything at the time. A year later J told her that he was in love with her. She laughed triumphantly and said "the b*itch always falls."

You've been warned.

JJ
 

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Jay Jay said:
Sav, my man, you are real close to stepping out of the matrix. Just don't listen to these guys saying she's a slut. Figure out how you've pulled off this feat and you'll be swimming in *****.

Anyway, I have a warning.

I had a FB for about ten years. We wouldn't shag when either of us were in a commited relationship, but we'd always shag when we were both single or dating.

We'd even talk about the other people we were seeing whilst enjoying an after sex cigarette.

It SEEMED we were just "friends." But she fell eventually.

Hehe. Reminds me of how two of my best friends (lets call them J &H) had a conversation about FBs in front of one of J's FBs (they were on Es and didn't think about it at the time).

H said "eventually the b*tch always falls." J agreed.

She didn't say anything at the time. A year later J told her that he was in love with her. She laughed triumphantly and said "the b*itch always falls."

You've been warned.

JJ
bro, you have the best stories on this board and usually give the best advice... i always look up to people of experience over people that just read a bunch of theory, and the more i think about it, the more i realise how much more i have to learn and how much more i have to experience...

i've always tried to keep my emotions in check in order to stay in control... i really dont wanna fall for this girl but it seems our relationship transcends everything... we can talk about anything with eachother, do anything together and always enjoy our times together (which to me is a perfect relationship)... nobody owes anything to the other...

what i described in my previous posts has been going on for about 2 years now... and its hard for me to concentrate on other girls when i (on a subconscious level) measure them up against her...

so far i've managed to stay detached to a certain extent... and i hope i wont be the ***** that will fall ;)


thanks for the post JJ, always insightful.
 

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btw, to the guy that posted that she's a slut, i see your point, but what does that make me?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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sav said:
btw, to the guy that posted that she's a slut, i see your point, but what does that make me?
It only made you naive. Now that you know better, make your choice.
What do you want with the new information you've discovered here?
 

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HAhahahahahahahaha!

Another example of how THE GAME does not exist, you losers!

If suddenly a guy doesn't need the game or something doesn't WORK like it should - she is a slut!

These losers will find ALL kinds of excuses and try to convince you that you have to have game!
 

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naive in what way, and what choice are we talking about?

babnik, i believe in improving yourself and dont believe in pick up lines and **** like that, although i do believe that initially its a good way of emulating confidence.. kinda like "fake it till you make it"...

girls are attracted to people that are confident in themselves, which i am... and i guess thats what draws her to me... the one thing i enjoy most is a great conversation (the great sex that follows is an added bonus ;))

im not one to sleep around when im committed which isnt to say that i havent, in the end you do whats best for you and what you feel is right...

to find the right one, you have to go through many....
 

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Thanks for the props Sav. Good luck.

Hey Babs! I didn't get what you were saying on my first read of your post Spot on!

Allow me to expand.

Losers who can't get quality girls call any girl who has sex a slut. If they admitted that most girls are beautiful sensual creatures who want to have sex with great guys they would be forced to admit that... drum roll... THEY ARE NOT GREAT GUYS.

Instead of being introspective about their failure they blame female nature. Maybe if they did look at themselves they might realise that women pick up on their inner bitterness towards females and that their attitude makes as likeable as a skunk.

Basically these skunks get jealous when they read about dudes like sav getting success and instead of saying "nice one brother." they call his girl a slut.

JJ
 

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Babnik said:
HAhahahahahahahaha!

Another example of how THE GAME does not exist, you losers!

If suddenly a guy doesn't need the game or something doesn't WORK like it should - she is a slut!

These losers will find ALL kinds of excuses and try to convince you that you have to have game!

Wait, so you're not trying to have any kind of game? Aren't these forums about seduction/game?

/serious question, not being an *******
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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