An American Werewolf in London

[thefonz]

Well, I just got back from spending 2 weeks in England and I learnt quite a bit from my trip. I'm a hardened boston boy so it was quite a shock to see all these diligent patient English folk basking in their arrogance (I love English arrogance). Here are some differences I noticed between the 2 cultures.

1. ****y/funny not nessecary for djing in Europe - Hell, alot of people don't even smile when they talk to you....it's not that they're depressed, they are extremely friendly, it's just the way they do things. I made a huge blunder trying c+f on my cousin's gf's friend and she did not dig it AT ALL. I felt game surging through my veins while I was talking to her but eventually I found out that my american ****iness made the girl very uncomfortable later with all my 'make-out talk'. I vowed to tone it down for the rest of the trip.

2. Talking politics/ serious subject matter is OK in Europe - As a matter of fact I couldn't find ANY girl who didn't want to talk about politics or war with me. Maybe it's cus I'm American and they wanted all my George Bush insight but I overheard many other people talking politics together. It didn't bring the mood down at all because English are master conversationalists and don't feel the need to be 'up tempo' 24/7. Whenever I talked with people they were concerned with what I had to say rather than how I portrayed myself.....very refreshing

3. Cold approaching is hard as hell in England - I tried 1 cold approach while i was at the t-tube in London with my family I walked up to her and asked how she was doing and where she was headed....at first she seemed confused like what do you want from me, then when I asked her what she was doing for the weekend she got very nervous and talked about how she was 'very very busy with her family' so I said ok and let her walk away in the crowd. Ouch. This girl was pretty cute, good enough for me at least ....but i sensed by her looks my approaching her was a foreign concept.

I did not get any action on this trip because i spent most of my time reuniting with family and siteseeing with immediate family....but I did start convo with alot of people guys and girls which is how i got this information. People are less judgemental over there and generally alot more laid back (ie. the train was 20 minutes behind schedule from paddington to london and only people complaining were Americans ) I love England but I have been conditioned to DJ as in American style so I have to stick with it.....

 

[Don Juanabbe]

I did notice the seriously blatant attitude I got from some English women. They are very good with neg hits and you have to keep up with their game.

 

[Not Quite There]

sorry to hear you had such bad luck over hear!

but thats what quite a few UK people have been saying for a while now.

I responded to your post in the wingman forum, but don't think you must of read it in time, but your best bet by far would of been clubs and bars.

****y and funny does work over hear though, but i guess you just got to tone your style up to suit the girl/situation.

 

[Not Quite There]

should also say, London does not count as England!

its by far the rudest and unfriendly city here, basically because its so big and everything else etc...

so the result is, people don't talk to strangers very often!

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

I dont know who you spoke to, i know that girl here my age really apreciate some one who is funny. I have talked to girls i do not know at school a few times. Hardyl ever started conversation with people on the street randomly it went alright but it was not to get a number it was just talking by chance if you get what i mean.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I lived in London a few years ago and I found it quite the opposite. However, many people did not realize that I was American until I told them.

The problems about traveling abroad and being American is that if you act like a typical American, you look like an @sshole. It could be how you approach women or topics of conversation.

What doesn't change is the fact that you need to gain rapport with whomever you come across and from the way you explained your process, I can easily understand why you didn't get a warm welcome.

One truth is that Europeans are definitely more laid back than Americans. Our forwardness is only appreciated in Italy (but that's a story in itself).

In being a DJ, you should be able to incorporate yourself into many environments. This includes clubs, work, grocery stores or other countries. Your success does relate to how well you interact with people no matter where you are.

 

[darthsidious]

The british and english or whatever white people in northern upper Europe island are from my Star Wars region. They are the inhabitants of my empire but have no real power.

They also inhabit Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings empire. Even though they are a conquered white people race, I welcome them in the stormtrooper ranks.

 

[Good_ol_boy]

Originally posted by darthsidious
The british and english or whatever white people in northern upper Europe island are from my Star Wars region. They are the inhabitants of my empire but have no real power.

They also inhabit Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings empire. Even though they are a conquered white people race, I welcome them in the stormtrooper ranks.

HUH???

2 weeks in London isn't "Europe". Attitudes and people change in different regions just like Texans are different than Bostonians and Californians are different than Texans. Go across the English Sea to France and attitudes are change, head down to Greece and still different. I spent some time living those places (pre Bush & 9/11-during the time of the "Iran Crisis") and was offten mistaken for "English" or "German".

 

[thefonz]

Originally posted by Not Quite There
sorry to hear you had such bad luck over hear!

I responded to your post in the wingman forum, but don't think you must of read it in time, but your best bet by far would of been clubs and bars.

I know, sorry guy but I didn't get a chance to read that post before I left.....I really wish I did cus you guys gave out some solid advice on that post that I wish I had read.

You're right, London does not count as England since people there are not laid back at all. Though I did have a really pleasant conversation with a HB7.5 on the bus back from London and she was a pleasure to talk to, very laid back. But overall London is full of *******s, however Boston is still much worse so I was used to it.

I went the clubs twice when I was there and it was the same one (Vibe in Clevedon outside of Bristol) and I went to the pubs virtually every night and lunchtime. My problem with the clubs was that I couldn't really dance well to Euro techno music to my aweful dancing didn't really settle well with the birds.....I got alot of rappaport when they heard me talk, but there wasn't much I could do since I was sleeping on a small mattress in my aunt's study.....as for the bars, there were hardly EVER many girls in there just drunken friendly bloaks. The first night i was there was huge football game between AC Milan and Liverpool and Liverpool won in a shoot out. I did alot of partying that night at the pub but like I said....no women around. I'm not gonna complain though....I had a great time on vacation, women aren't life.

 

[thefonz]

darthsidious.......LMAO!!!!