"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Dude, go pick up a dictionnary. Until you do, stop posting. You clearly don't understand what the different words mean.
I know exectly what the words mean, you on the other hand have no clue what the word "context" mean. I was implying by my comment that you don't have to be smooth and suave to pick up an ugly girl. The mear fact that you are talking to her is enough for her to be interested in you ( unless you are butt ugly yourself or an extremly insecure mute).
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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In an odd twist, I tend to get less *****iness from the HB 8's +. They're either total ****s or really easy to talk to. The HB 5-7's give me the most trouble.
But it is rare to run into many girls i consider 8's these days.
 

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The knockout punch was then delivered.. And ill give that Brit some credit for this one.
Damn dude, you are reading into this stuff waaaay to much.
It's just a social interaction, man. Not a fuUcking RPG.
Just learn the mating sequence, get your masculinity going and hit on women you actually like.
 

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And i've seen pushy guys try to grab my sets before it, but it's never worked.
If the girl is interested in you, it usually doesn't work. So just get the girls interested in you.



You probably should have turned all of your attention onto the other girl and did your best to keep her where she was...then her friend would have came back on her own...minus any confrontation or you risking looking like you saw the other guy as a threat.
surprisingly good advice from a woman.

However, re-reading your post, you said that the guy just came out of nowhere and physically pulled her away from you. I think that might've actually called for a verbal confrontation. (it probably wouldn't be that hard to make the black guy look like an idiot after a move like that) Of course, as you said, the girl wasn't really worth fighting over.


In an odd twist, I tend to get less *****iness from the HB 8's +. They're either total ****s or really easy to talk to. The HB 5-7's give me the most trouble.
very good point
 

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both of you are idiots... he didnt go out clubbing to fight, he went to hook up with a chick... a guy being more suave then you isnt a good enough reason to start hitting big black guys with fire extinguishers...
You're a douche bag...its not about the girl its about the way you carry yourself. If he lets some big black guy come and hit on the chick he was working on then what else could the black guy take from him? Maybe he should just suck his **** while he's at it.

My point was...if you're crazy enough to go upside someones head then people tend to **** with you less

It's more about a way of life then about the girl. The situation described is about respect. The black guy doesn't respect the poster so he stole what he could.

Am I saying he should of fought the guy...not really. But he was obviously submissive to the black guy when he came over.....bad move
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Jason88 said:
Am I saying he should of fought the guy...not really. But he was obviously submissive to the black guy when he came over.....bad move
oh yeah... of course we all can say this AFTER the fact some big black dude did that.

if it happened to you i bet you'd be freaking out if a huge ass black dude and 2 other people came up to you and took the chick.

of course LATER you can say what you SHOULD have done and SAY it was easy to overcome.

but i'm sure in all reality... you wouldn't get loud or talk back to them... you'd probably sit quietly and watch them walk away.

be honest.
 

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oh yeah... of course we all can say this AFTER the fact some big black dude did that.

if it happened to you i bet you'd be freaking out if a huge ass black dude and 2 other people came up to you and took the chick.

of course LATER you can say what you SHOULD have done and SAY it was easy to overcome.

but i'm sure in all reality... you wouldn't get loud or talk back to them... you'd probably sit quietly and watch them walk away.

be honest.
lol...yeah because you know me so well. Maybe you can say whatever you want after the fact. Some people hold themselves to different standards than you do...its just a fact of life.

But what happens to this kid if other people saw what happened? It puts him in a weak position. At least thats my opinion.

As for the black guy...I have no hesitations in fighting someone bigger than me. Usually they're not great fighters anyways.

your post is the epitome of what big guys look for....the I can't do anything because I'm so much smaller act....

sheez look at mike tyson...he wasn't big at all...but look how much ass he kicked
 

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Fighting over a girl you just met and don't even know or have any time or feelings invested in is retarded.

Picking a fight with a MUCH bigger guy over a girl you don't even know is doubly retarded.

Just sayin...
 

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It would be retarded if you did it. If a man did it, it would be kinda cool. (At least, it would be cool if the HB were rated anything better than a 6.)
 

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Nope...it's not ever cool to fight over a woman. When guys fight over a woman they are telling everyone that they value some random woman they DON'T EVEN KNOW over their own self-respect. It's the ultimate pansy supplication thing to do, to be honest with you. Yeah, the guys are trying to "out man" each other but all the while, everyone watching is thinking "Gawd, what a couple of idiots fighting over some girl...they must be desperate and pathetic losers."
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Nope...it's not ever cool to fight over a woman. When guys fight over a woman they are telling everyone that they value some random woman they DON'T EVEN KNOW over their own self-respect. It's the ultimate pansy supplication thing to do, to be honest with you. Yeah, the guys are trying to "out man" each other but all the while, everyone watching is thinking "Gawd, what a couple of idiots fighting over some girl...they must be desperate and pathetic losers."
I don't recall every seriously flaming anyone on here, but you, shut the fkk up you stupid bytch.

You clearly have no fkking idea what that kind of humiliation feels like to a guy. It's about standing up for yourself and doing the right thing, the honorable thing. Yeah, it might be "retarded", but fkk that man. Going through life letting people walk over you WHATEVER the reason is just no way to live. Some guys instictively know this, others have to first experience that humiliation before they vow to never let it happen again. Others go through life getting stepped on and feeling they are the bottom of the barrel... which is what you would have them do. You know nothing about being a male, so fkk off and give advice about what presents to buy for valentines or something you may actually KNOW something about.

As for this particular case, yes man, you got badly, badly amoged. More than that, it was just plain insulting the WAY this mofkker did it. It would have been one thing if he had simply butted in and charmed her away from you, but to physically snatch her, oh man... that would just make my blood fkking BOIL. At that point, it's no longer about the girl, it's about standing up for yourself.

HOWEVER, from the position of an observer, where I can maintain my cool, you're better off not having done anything. What pysses me off about blacks is that they are many many times more violent than whites (probably cos so few of them feel they have anything to lose) and they know this fact is intimidating to whites and they like the "power" it gives them. Then, if a white guy stands up for himself, the black rage kicks in and the white guy cops it because blacks will jump in and help blacks, but whites won't help whites. (In the black mind, all this is supposedly justified by white "racism".) I've seen it happen, so please spare me the lectures. (And I have NEVER witnessed the opposite.) If I were to ever live in America again, I'd simply avoid ever frequenting places where I was likely to encounter blacks. That's the simplest solution. Everyone knows this, too, so I'm just saying out loud what everyone already thinks.

As for how to deal with future amogs, the best way is to simply improve your game. If you fail to stir any interest in her, she will easily let herself be "taken away" from you -- no matter how good your anti-amog defences are.

However, knowing how to amog back other guys helps if she IS interested in you, because if another guy trys to amog, you do it back, and the other guy gets ignored and walks off. (I mean, it's just simpler and way quicker to amog him back rather then waiting for the girl to tell him she's not interested.)
 

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My fiance' is dead because of two stupid idiots fighting over a woman. He was at a friend's house when a guy busted in shooting at his friend...over some stupid woman. My fiance' wrestled the guy with the gun to the floor, had him pinned, knocked the gun out of his hands and then a second stupid moron who thinks it's cool for grown men to fight over women came in and shot my fiance' three times in the back with an automatic assault rifle filled with illegal armor piercing ammunition.

You can flame me all you want but it won't change the fact that grown men fighting over a woman is fvcking RETARDED. If someone was attacking your wife or girlfriend, then yeah...that's one thing...but fighting over who gets to talk to some random female stranger in a bar? That's just damn STOOPID.

Oh yeah...and better to be "humiliated" than dead, but I digress...
 

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well, that was a little harsh, but you're definitely coming from the right place with that post, daniel

As for me, I really need to get in a fight some time. I've never really been in one (unless you count the time I got beat up in preschool). As Brad Pitt says in Fight Club, I don't wanna die without any scars.
 

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My fiance' is dead because of two stupid idiots fighting over a woman. He was at a friend's house when a guy busted in shooting at his friend...
wow, where the hell do you live, Wyldfire? are you black?
 

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wow, where the hell do you live, Wyldfire? are you black?
Foolish to assume that I must live in "da hood" and be black for something like this to happen. I'm white. It happened in rural Vermont...a place with one of the lowest crime rates in the country. It can happen ANYWHERE.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Wow are you serious!? AMOG or reverse AMOG is like the easiest thing you can do. You coulda made fun of them by asking where all "THEIR GIRLS WERE" or if they were planning to include you in a interracial porno. Ya your right though you did get AMOGed wicked bad, your suppose to continue the coversation topic. Give props to the black guy cuz he just owned you by taking over the convo and then the girl. Not to be a racist but if they were brits you could have made fun of their bad teeth or something, doing nothing is the worst thing to do.
 

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If this guy were white, would it have made it any different? That's something you should ask and answer for yourself.

The fact that this person is black is probably this least likely reason he did what he did. He did this because he is an alpha male and simply owned the situation. Hey, I am not 6'5", but if it were my wife or girlfriend I would have stood up to this person. It wouldn't matter if that I am 5'9", but for my wife or girlfriend, at a minimum any man should respect that, and you should demand it as real man, period. Any half way decent man would respect you for your stance.

However, just some random chick who you might get a chance to talk to, please. Spare me the heartbreak and sorrow. I have seen too many people get hurt for something meaningless.

Again, if it's your wife or fiance be prepared to defend her, and yourself. Anyone, else is fair game.
 

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You guys are totally missing the point. We're not advising guys in this forum to start fights with huge black dudes. We're just saying to stand up for yourself verbally and be willing to fight if the other guy chooses to get physical. Being unwilling to stand up for yourself due to possible violence is not manly at all.
 

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I gurantee if the OP had a stronger presence and a confident composure to begin with he wouldn't have been AMOGed like that. And if anyone did, for any reason, try to AMOG him his confident presence would not only have subconsciously dettered the black dude (or whoever) but would have also acted as a catalyst for a quick witty respond. Don't assume that just because someone is 'black' and 'big' they have authority over their surroundings and on reality. You should have seen this coming from a mile away if you were at all conscious of your surroundings, but i assume you exuded simp vibes which the black dude picked up on and took full advantage of. But no need to get upset over a ugly girl:rolleyes:
 

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This must be a record for the amount of times 'black guy' has been used in one thread.

What happend to just 'big guy'? lol
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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