"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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AMOGed tonight, badly

JimmyEatGirl1984

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Hey gang. Long time lurker, don't really post. Well i thought I would break my silence.

Tonight, i went out with my AFC buddy (already a mistake when i'm sarging) and opened a few sets. Went 2 for 2 on the hooking.


Opened up this 2 set by the bar towards the end of the night. One was an UG the other was an HB 6. I'd rather not go into details about the entire set, but I did fairly well. Got some attraction, decent comfort, negged her a bit.

Well eventually she was standing up with her friend, and i was sitting on her stool, and some huge black guy (6'5 + 300 lbs) with a group of white guys grabs her hand and drags her into the middle of his group. I'm already intimidated b/c this mofo is huge. I know that i have to go get her back, but i'm just frozen there, and she's surrounded by these guys.

So i just stand and watch with her friend and my tool AFC wing man. Eventually the black guy introduces her to one of his friends. (My theory is that maybe they hired this guy, b/c he was a ****ing natural and a half). They start chatting, then her friend jumps into the group to see whats up, and meanwhile me and my wingman are just standing there not doing ****.

I try opening the set, i talk to the black guy and some of the other dudes, just chit chat, but I didn't try tooling them Tyler Durden style.. (Thats really hard for me..). We actually chatted a little. Some of the dudes were british, but the black guy wasn't (which was odd.. PUA students, who knows.. but I didn't see them do anything canned). All the while black man is heavily kinoing the UG, and even plants a kiss on her lips. He's very smooth and suave. Meanwhile the other British guy who has much less game is still talking up my chick. My annoying friend grabs me at one point to go find my jacket, which we thought got stolen.

I get back there, British man asks "so how do you all know each other". I try to get cute and respond "O she's my girlfriend". She says "oo no we just met an hour ago.." At this point i can see the direction this is going. I'm no match for the ****ing accent :mad: But I wont' blame that on anything, in truth my game was just not tight enough and i have like zilch exp with AMOGs. The knockout punch was then delivered.. And ill give that Brit some credit for this one.

He pulls out his cigarettes, and says you want to come smoke. Of course she says yes, and walks out with him. I don't follow, i've been humiliated enough.. Her friend runs out with them, and the huge 35 year old black dude follows.
I leave shortly after with my AFC buddy (who knows nothing of any community stuff, and it showed).

Moral of the story: Big Black Natural Guys will AMOG sets from me at will unless i learn how to defend it. It wasn't the best set I ever ran, it was kind of stalling at that point. And I did see her looking around before I got AMOGed, curious what else was out there. Just the whole black guy pulling her in, caught me so off guard. Her standing in front of like 5 guys in a circle, I was clueless how to go about getting her back. Any thoughts on this much appreciated, KJ's need not apply:) People who have serious experience with this type of AMOGery post away..
 

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Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

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Her interest level in you was not high. If she had a high interest level in you than she would not have left with the black guy.

If your CONFIDENT than no man will ever AMOG YOU.
 

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yeah, i actually haven't had much experience with AMOGs taking my chicks -- but why would you even worry about an HB6 anyway? Let him have her.

If she was looking around already and the convo was stalling, chances are she didn't need that much of an excuse to bail. You probably don't need to learn any advanced anti-AMOG techniques just because of this.


So i just stand and watch with her friend and my tool AFC wing man.
rofl
 

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first off AMOG??? say what... is that like Almighty Mother Of God a dude just straight took my snatch!!! :eek:


....anyhow, was that chick afraid at all of the guys? sounds pretty intimidating and risky for her, i bet she got off on it... They seemed aggressive, she got ****ed i bet. lol.. anyhow sorry, just seems like a creepy "raper" approach they pulled.
 

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Randallpink83 said:
first off AMOG??? say what... is that like Almighty Mother Of God a dude just straight took my snatch!!! :eek:


Yeah I understand there's a whole acronym set for this kinda thing, but you guys should type it out just once (like this) for those of us who don't know what AMOG means. Anyway, too bad about your night. But don't worry, the odds were against you anyway (AFC friend, ugly friend, experienced brits + black dudes), and you did alright.
 

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I agree I probably didn't have her hooked as well as I thought. I thought what the black guy did was very alpha, and took more balls than I had. I don't think the British guy had tighter game then me, he just paid off having a very alpha friend.

I'm still at a loss for what I could have done to get them back, but they weren't that hot. It's just I don't want this type of thing happening again If i have an HB8 per instance. And i've been in the field for monthes, and nothing like this has ever occured.

And yes, having an AFC wing sucks so bad..........................
 

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AMOG = alpha male of group...

read the bible deadsh1t.

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to the OP, you sort of had two options

1. show disinterest by just walking away like it's no biggie...her lose right?

2. the AMOG of their group was kind of testing how tough you were... The right move, in my books, would have been to stand up to him and tell him that you were talking to her, and lead her away. Fvck the other skinny guys in the group, they usually take a backseat in confrontations if they have a clear leader.. That leaves just the big dude for you to play down..Make him look stupid, situationally.. How you do that is sort of in your court...Mabye something like "hey man, me and the lady were talking..[lead her out].. There's room for your sausage fest up at the bar now. [mabye take her to a booth at this point], and play down the group by telling the girl something like "hey <name>, i think the big guy likes you" chances are she won't be attracted to a 300lb black dude, so she's back on your side...

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It's all situational eh? Don't be afraid to scrap though. I always carry some knuckledusters in my pocket when i go out.
 

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BluEyes said:
AMOG = alpha male of group...

read the bible deadsh1t.
first off thanks for clarifying.. second stop being a ****... and third ive looked all over the bible and I havent found a single ****in term described yet..
 

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Well, normally i'm not afraid to stand up to the guy. But did i mention the leader of their group was a 6'3 250+ lb black guy. Yes, he looked like a body guard.

I do agree that decisive action was necessary, but in the end the truth was I didn't have her hooked where i wanted her. It was waning a little bit, and she took the opportunity i'm sure as much as they did.

Those are some good AMOGing tactics, I just hate to show so much interest in a broad I just met. If it was my date or girlfriend or even friend it's a completely different story.
 

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JimmyEatGirl1984 said:
Well, normally i'm not afraid to stand up to the guy. But did i mention the leader of their group was a 6'3 250+ lb black guy. Yes, he looked like a body guard.
So what? Find something in your surroundings to neutralize the physical difference and be prepared to use it.

Think Joe Pesci in Casino.
 

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You shouldn't have even followed her if she just went with him like that.She's not worth it.

But i've seen this happen at the club many times....lol..
 

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I agree, she was NOT worth it. I'm just wondering how'd i react if she was worth it. And i've seen pushy guys try to grab my sets before it, but it's never worked.

It's all just a game, i'm hitting the reset button. Live and Learn.
 

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JimmyEatGirl1984 said:
Well i'm not looking to get into a fight, thats for sure.
Obviously you're not looking to get into one, but if there is a possibility that this guy could over-react to some jokes then you should be able to defend yourself.

All I'm saying is that you don't have to be afraid of this guy, or almost any guy for that matter.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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JimmyEatGirl1984 said:
All the while black man is heavily kinoing the UG, and even plants a kiss on her lips. He's very smooth and suave.
How can he be smooth and suave if he was hitting on an ugly girl?? lol

What you need to realise that just like you those guys are out there trying to score. Nobody takes anybody away, your game wasn't tight and there was tighter and beside why the fvck do you care about some average girl and an ugly girl, chuck it up to a loss of interest and move on and find a new girl.
 

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You probably should have turned all of your attention onto the other girl and did your best to keep her where she was...then her friend would have came back on her own...minus any confrontation or you risking looking like you saw the other guy as a threat.
 

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DJDamage said:
How can he be smooth and suave if he was hitting on an ugly girl?? lol
Dude, go pick up a dictionnary. Until you do, stop posting. You clearly don't understand what the different words mean.
 

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Insults aren't necessary. You guys are supposed to be here to HELP each other, not belittle each other. You gain more from this site when you support and encourage each other.
 

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wjh said:
So what? Find something in your surroundings to neutralize the physical difference and be prepared to use it.

Think Joe Pesci in Casino.
Thank god someone else gets it.... It's not the size of the person you should be worried about. The person you should watch out for is the one who doesn't give a ****. And nearly always it isn't the biggest guy in the room.
 

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Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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