"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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AMOGed by 7 dudes. Any suggestions for dealing with this?

Jay Jay

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So I was out over the weekend and spied a table of three hotties sitting alone. They all looked bored so I went over for a chat.

A second later seven musclar tattooed scary looking drunk mofos were all around. None of them said anything to me. They were just there. But they weren't giving me many friendly looks.

My overtures of friendship were recieved coldly.

Turns out these were male friends of the girls and boyfirends of two of the girls. But I did find out the hottest was not seeing any of them.

I politely excused myself a moment later.

And I must admit I think it was pretty obvious that my only reason for leaving was because I didn't want to get my arsed kicked. Only one of my boys was there (in another room having a good time) and he was too drunk to have done any good if things got rough.

I thing my tactical retreat was a wise move.

But it left me thinking if there was a better way to have handled it all.

I've read Tyler Durdens AMOG stuff but that doesn't seem designed for a large gang of dudes who are giving dangerous vibes.

Anyway, does anyone know tactics for getting out of this situation on your own terms?

My main concern is if I see those girls again how to make sure I don't look like a *****.

JJ
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Every wise man knows when it's time to walk away.

There's plenty of women out there. You don't have to work your way through 3 women and 7 guys.

You excused yourself the right way.
 

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I read that Tyler Durden thingy, and those lines might fluster the faggy British type, but they would get you knocked out in the states.
 

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WC2: Thanks dude. Seemed the only smart thing to do.

Phyzzle: Totally! I think the "she's my girlfriend" "yeah? She's a slut." Would have got me murdered. Some of those TD AMOG busters sound real good on paper but I wouldn't want to deliver them in real life....

JJ
 

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Jay Jay said:
WC2: Thanks dude. Seemed the only smart thing to do.

Phyzzle: Totally! I think the "she's my girlfriend" "yeah? She's a slut." Would have got me murdered. Some of those TD AMOG busters sound real good on paper but I wouldn't want to deliver them in real life....

JJ
agreed. I wonder how many guys have gotten hurt and/or killed when it was really the wrong time to be clever?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You listened to your instincts and left a situation before it turned worse. If you didnt have enough rapport built with the women by the time you got AMOGd then it was wise to leave with that many d1cks standing around. The only thing you might have done is excused yourself and grabbed the hotties number before you walked off if you felt you had enough rapport built to do so. This is a classic situation where having a wingman would have been helpful.
 

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I was at a bar/lounge a few years back, and was about to jump onto a table with these bunch of girls. But I noticed they were with some guys who were giving off some really crazy vibes, like they wanted to murder anyone who talked to 'their girls'.

So I decided to back off. Then the next week I read in the paper that on the SAME NIGHT, some Tyler Durden wannabe had been killed in a fight after trying to pick up some girls. I could only guess who these girls had been.

Sometimes it pays to be attentive. Nothing wrong with walking away if you're getting some psycho vibes.
 

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Part of being a DJ is reading the situation and putting your dignity and safety above all else. Sometimes leaving the situation IS the DJ thing to do.

You did the right thing.
 

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AMOG seems too much like fighting over Pus** to me, cant be dealing with all that nonsense.

Unless it comes naturally i would not try to fake it, does not seem to be any point.

Granted it may get you more womens attention, but i would rather look on as the guys are begging for pus**, hell i would rather chill sit back relax and take a sip of my pint then act like two rams trying to compete over ti*s and as8 and thats what AMOG seems to me, sorry but i dont value women that much to be risking getting into a fight or even butting heads with dudes.

Pus** is great but there is no need to take the stand of coc* fighting dudes to get it.

but i can see its application for a few situations just not in cold appraoch which it is mainly attributed to.

i.E maybe a good tool to master if some player is trying on with your girl, or you want to make a dic* look bad as he peed you off earlier, or you just want to get one up on a guy. Other then that i dont think AMOG and PU need to go hand in hand, i would simply NEXT and try another.
 

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By the way, you didn't get "AMOG'd". You got threatened by a group of guys. There is a difference.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Props for approaching the 3 hotties!

You're resolution was quite good. The only other thing I can think of is to address the men, say hi to them directly and openly. Act like a sociable guy, interested in knowing all. Ask them all how they know each other. That lets them state up front what the score is.. it relieves things because they feel respected. At that point, check the vibe. A lot of times, it may be good, and you can continue to charm the gal, they may even encourage it because you handled yourself so adeptly... you're in the circle for the eve. In any event, they're not going to escalate the tension just because you greeted them.

In the interest of full disclosure, and not acting holier than thou.. I am not sure I'd have the presence of mind to pull off what I just suggested. I've done it before, but not regularly.
 

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Phyzzle said:
I read that Tyler Durden thingy, and those lines might fluster the faggy British type, but they would get you knocked out in the states.
TD's AMOG stuff works just fine. It's more about the frame than what you actually say. I personally have AMOGed gangmembers and I've heard that TD's done it in LA also.

I think you should've stayed in there, because really you didn't get AMOGed it was just 7 guys who knew the girls who looked at you mean. If you had a strong frame and were just having fun you wouldn't care whether there standing by you or not. You became reactive to there presence and it fuked you up. To get back into your comfort zone you ejected for no reason. There are many things you could've done.

Roleplaying (Bodyguard)
C&F ("Hey these girls are bad girls! I wouldn't trust them" or "Hey you guys look tough I need you to take these girl's away from us.")
Engage the guys ("Hey you...you look like a ladies man I need your help...sex with my gf is boring as hell...what would be a great breakup text message.")

This is a typical hard set as I would call it. It has been done before by others and there will be hardier situations. But its always best to stick in there because it helps you grow. Imagine going in only bad situational sets over and over and then actually seeing a lone wolf. There would be nothing to fear.

My hardest approach to date was when I had to walk to the back of a crowded bus and opened a 8 set. (5 boys 3 girls) It turned out actually to be some fun, me and a few of the guys were joking around the whole bus ride. You never know what will happen until you try.
 

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i can't stand people who look like, and act as if they are jacked up on staroids.....yea, going to the gym and being big is fine, but when you walk in to a club like your looking for a fight, pushing everybody out of the way and acting all rude and ****.....it just makes me wanna sucker punch you in the NUTS.

Life is too short to put up with retards like that
 

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Thanks to everyone for responding with such great posts.

I must admit unfortunately I don't feel anymore enlightened. It seems that there are two differing opinions here and I agree with both of them.

1. Its not worth getting your head busted for one hottie when the club was full of them.

2. I gave up too early as every situation can be turned to your advantage (thanks for the tips snow ploughman) and I missed an opportunity to raise the bar.

Both totally valid points.

The best resolution I have found in all of this is an old one; be ready for anything, keep my frame, play every situation on its merits and trust my instincts.

Cheers

JJ
 

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
Part of being a DJ is reading the situation and putting your dignity and safety above all else. Sometimes leaving the situation IS the DJ thing to do.

You did the right thing.

real talk.....
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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