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I have a good friend of mine who moved to Colombia. He is a regular guy who is a bohemian artsy type. He is killing it in that country. Almost every week he is sending me pictures of girls in his bed room. Very cute girls who would get simped on in the USA. These girls would get such an inflated head if they were in the US. In Colombia they are treated as just another girl.

The issue in America is not the women. It is the men. For years I cold approached. I have approached hundreds of women. I just did not care. This boosts thier ego a lot. Now the cold approach has moved online making it worse.

American men are starting to bring back balance to the mating game. It is slowly happening. The expat movement ( passport) is helping. American men are also not approaching women in public which is helping too. Now if we can just curve the online attention we will win.

I just found out about live streaming culture. Via my social circle I talk to a very pretty girl who is a virgin because her father locks her up in the house ( long story). I went on her live to check it out. It was tons of guys just simping for her. I asked her does she enjoy the attention and she said no. Its mostly guys that she does not like ( she still secretly likes it) . My point is that once we stop giving them attention online we will bring balance back to the market.
 

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American women are super selective and are chasing the feelz from top tier American men (aka Chads/Tyrones). Mid-tier American men are struggling in their USA home market. Mid-tier men are often better off by becoming a passport bro if they can make that path work in life.
 

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It isn't simps that cause the ego boost. It's literally us. Your friend is just going to a place where the women haven't been spent as hard and he's doing the exact same thing there that caused the problems here.

If there's a group of kind, virgin women who respect men and family values, then one or two PUAs will come into the picture, get them all drunk, spin them as plates, never call back, and BAM. Now you have a group of degenerate women with body counts, inflated egos, and a bitterness towards men because they never stick around after sex.

This doesn't bring back any balance. It's just finding new lands after resources at home were consumed without a second thought. And there's no way to get all other men to just stop approaching women. That's totally unrealistic.
 

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It isn't simps that cause the ego boost. It's literally us. Your friend is just going to a place where the women haven't been spent as hard and he's doing the exact same thing there that caused the problems here.

If there's a group of kind, virgin women who respect men and family values, then one or two PUAs will come into the picture, get them all drunk, spin them as plates, never call back, and BAM. Now you have a group of degenerate women with body counts, inflated egos, and a bitterness towards men because they never stick around after sex.

This doesn't bring back any balance. It's just finding new lands after resources at home were consumed without a second thought. And there's no way to get all other men to just stop approaching women. That's totally unrealistic.
I agree, cant have it both ways. If red pillers want women to not have casual sex, and they complain about how unsuitable their local women are for relationships. They cant then celebrate how easier casual sex is with women in some other location. Thats just like a virus transmitting to a new more conductive host and infecting it too. Or pastoralists turning their land into an overgrazed desert, then migrating to a new ripe location and desertifying that too. Red pillers have to make up their minds about whether they want women to have casual sex, or to stay chaste. Cant have it both ways.
 
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It isn't simps that cause the ego boost. It's literally us. Your friend is just going to a place where the women haven't been spent as hard and he's doing the exact same thing there that caused the problems here.

If there's a group of kind, virgin women who respect men and family values, then one or two PUAs will come into the picture, get them all drunk, spin them as plates, never call back, and BAM. Now you have a group of degenerate women with body counts, inflated egos, and a bitterness towards men because they never stick around after sex.

This doesn't bring back any balance. It's just finding new lands after resources at home were consumed without a second thought. And there's no way to get all other men to just stop approaching women. That's totally unrealistic.
Yes I agree. I dont endorse him just pumping and dumping. He is addicted to it now. I want him to find a girl and form a family. To be fair the " kind virgin women who respect men" are not being bedded by the gringos. Those women are locked up in Bogota. Most of the expat PUA's are having sex with the sluttier girls.

I do agree that corrupting a new pool of women is evil but he aint smashing no virgins down there lol. Them girls are freaky.
 
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Yes I agree. I dont endorse high just pumping and dumping. He is addicted to it now. I want him to find a girl and form a family. To be fair the " kind virgin women who respect men" are not being bedded by the gringos. Those women are locked up in Bogota. Most of the expat PUA's are having sex with the sluttier girls.

I do agree that corrupting a new pool of women is evil but he aint smashing no virgins down there lol. Them girls are freaky.
Yeah i was gonna add that to my post. I have no problem with what hes doing as long as hes not fooling any girl into thinking he'll marry her. Theres nothing wrong with enticing women to have casual sex if theyre already promiscuous.
 

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American women are super selective and are chasing the feelz from top tier American men (aka Chads/Tyrones). Mid-tier American men are struggling in their USA home market. Mid-tier men are often better off by becoming a passport bro if they can make that path work in life.
I totally agree bro. Would you agree that the obesity epidemic has a lot to do with it? American men are just used to most women being fat. So the normal sized women get disproportionate amounts of attention. In other countries the men need a lot to actually be impressed with a girls looks.
 

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Yeah i was gonna add that to my post. I have no problem with what hes doing as long as hes not fooling any girl into thinking he'll marry her. Theres nothing wrong with enticing women to have casual sex if theyre already promiscuous.
To be honest most expats get the lower hanging fruit. Good girls get wifed up early in every culture. Most expats are smashing girls that put out on the first date etc. His girls are so slutty its incredible.

So ive noticed that they have sluts everywhere. Its just that girls are slutty in other countries but they are still feminine. They still have realistic standards. They are still kinda enjoyable to be around. This is why he is so addicted lol.
 

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That's been the excuse men have used for decades. "She was like that when I found her." We know that's not true.

Yeah, alcoholics have always been around. And the responsible men don't wind up as slobs to the degree the drunks do. But the responsible man is finding himself drinking more now that a liquor store just opened up. Some time later, his friends go to that liquor store and begin drinking often, so the responsible man gets drunk with his friends now because he's an outcast if he doesn't. Some time later, people ask, "why is everyone an alcoholic?"

Then they find a village where almost no one drinks and say "Hey guys, it's ok to drink, as long as it's done so moderately. As long as you don't turn into the worst case drunkard it's fine..." and the same problems begin to emerge 20-30 years later. Then someone says "Well, surely you can't expect no one in the village to ever drink, can you?" completely forgetting that 30 years ago almost none of them drank.
 
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I have a good friend of mine who moved to Colombia. He is a regular guy who is a bohemian artsy type. He is killing it in that country. Almost every week he is sending me pictures of girls in his bed room. Very cute girls who would get simped on in the USA. These girls would get such an inflated head if they were in the US. In Colombia they are treated as just another girl.

The issue in America is not the women. It is the men. For years I cold approached. I have approached hundreds of women. I just did not care. This boosts thier ego a lot. Now the cold approach has moved online making it worse.

American men are starting to bring back balance to the mating game. It is slowly happening. The expat movement ( passport) is helping. American men are also not approaching women in public which is helping too. Now if we can just curve the online attention we will win.

I just found out about live streaming culture. Via my social circle I talk to a very pretty girl who is a virgin because her father locks her up in the house ( long story). I went on her live to check it out. It was tons of guys just simping for her. I asked her does she enjoy the attention and she said no. Its mostly guys that she does not like ( she still secretly likes it) . My point is that once we stop giving them attention online we will bring balance back to the market.
America is a geographic location of simps.

Though I did but agree with Looks Maximus on all things, and I think he was being hyperbolic, I think many men would benefit by viewing his content, especially this video, to get their heads straightened out.
 

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That's been the excuse men have used for decades. "She was like that when I found her." We know that's not true.

Yeah, alcoholics have always been around. And the responsible men don't wind up as slobs to the degree the drunks do. But the responsible man is finding himself drinking more now that a liquor store just opened up. Some time later, his friends go to that liquor store and begin drinking often, so the responsible man gets drunk with his friends now because he's an outcast if he doesn't. Some time later, people ask, "why is everyone an alcoholic?"

Then they find a village where no one drinks and say "hey guys, it's ok to drink, as long as it's done so moderately. As long as you don't turn into the worst case drunkard it's fine..."
Huh? Can you explain in different terms?

Btw I agree with you man. I am not for breaking hearts anymore. Even sluts have hearts. They are actually the ones that need love the most. I have acquired enough bad karma from years of womanizing and I dont want anymore. Everyday I am racked with guilt for the girls that I deeply wounded. Its not cool.

I am just saying that there is an X factor that is not present in the West. For some reason even the sluts of thats society are more down to earth than the girls of our society. I am thinking it is the attention and worship we give females in the West.
 

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America is a geographic location of simps.

Though I did but agree with Looks Maximus on all things, and I think he was being hyperbolic, I think many men would benefit by viewing his content, especially this video, to get their heads straightened out.
Hahaha btw I am listening to this guy. Thanks for showing him to me. I share his thoughts man. When I say these things people look at me as crazy. He is right though. Women are one step above children. You tell them what to do. They are not supposed to have much agency. This is why they CRAVE a strong dominant male to tell them what to do. They know left to their own devices they will self destruct.
For some reason even men on this forum find this too dark of a philosophy. I am subscribing to this dude.
 

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I am just saying that there is an X factor that is not present in the West. For some reason even the sluts of thats society are more down to earth than the girls of our society. I am thinking it is the attention and worship we give females in the West.
Several reasons:
1. Lack of male family authority. If men use threat of or actual force against undesirable men who are trying to screw their daughters or sisters or cousins, Papa Gubmint and popo will jail him.
2. Incentivized divorce.
3. Misandric media and educational system.
4. Women can humiliate and mistreat men with no consequences; it is accepted and there are zero social norms to curb this.
5. Gynocratic courts that jail men with no due process and kidnap their children.
6. Zero shame for sexual transgressions. No slut shaming. An adulterous woman can live with and be supported by a new man while husband is forced to continue to pay her.
7. Pretty much allowing women to do whatever the f-CK they want and turning social situations in which they are involved into high-tension nightmares. Even into the 70’s, when cuck indoctrination was gaining steam, women had to be chaperoned at bars.
8. The trend of men treating female validation as the ultimate achievement of all mankind.
9. Acting like women and judging their fellow men depending on whether they are approved by women. Lulz!

I can go on, but I’ll stop here.

Cuck Nation.
 
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Hahaha btw I am listening to this guy. Thanks for showing him to me. I share his thoughts man. When I say these things people look at me as crazy. He is right though. Women are one step above children. You tell them what to do. They are not supposed to have much agency. This is why they CRAVE a strong dominant male to tell them what to do. They know left to their own devices they will self destruct.
For some reason even men on this forum find this too dark of a philosophy. I am subscribing to this dude.
Good. You’re welcome. I don’t share all his ideas, or not to the same degree, but his thinking is straight. He was big on escortmaxxing. That’s an archive of his videos. He disappeared.
 
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Several reasons:
1. Lack of male family authority. If men use threat of or actual force against undesirable men who are trying to screw his daughters or sisters or cousins, Papa Gubmint and popo will jail him.
2. Incentivized divorce.
3. Misandric media and educational system.
4. Women can humiliate and mistreat men with no consequences; it is accepted and there are zero social norms to curb this.
5. Gynocratic courts that jail men with no due process and kidnap their children.
6. Zero shame for sexual transgressions. No slut shaming. An adulterous woman can live with and be supported by a new man while husband is forced to continue to pay her.
7. Pretty much allowing women to do whatever the f-CK they want and turning social situations in which they are involved into high-tension nightmares. Even into the 70’s, when cuck indoctrination was gaining steam, women had to be chaperoned at bars.
8. The trend of men treating female validation as the ultimate achievement of all mankind.
9. Acting like women and judging their fellow men depending on whether they are approved by women. Lulz!

I can go on, but I’ll stop here.

Cuck Nation.
Yeh this is a great list. I will also add the obesity problem. Skinny girls are treated like supermodels but maybe that is the same as #8.
 

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Yeh this is a great list. I will also add the obesity problem. Skinny girls are treated like supermodels but maybe that is the same as #8.
I believe we would not see so many obese or substance-abusing women if we corrected all issues mentioned.
 

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I believe we would not see so many obese or substance-abusing women if we corrected all issues mentioned.
Actually if corrected all issues mentioned, most men would have a woman—not a harem unto each, but a shot at having women and children. Many normal and healthy men cannot even have such nice things under current conditions, and which were available to most men pre-super gynecocracy.

Red pillers look down upon such social corrections because game and grift would disappear if enforced.

Women are not born marriageable. They need to be trained. That’s we see such untamed savages all over the place.
 
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America is in moral decay it's obvious just turn on the tv or youtube Pdiddygate, political woke agenda, psyops etc. We need to bring back Christian values in Christ. The tides are turning and if you're paying attention you will continue to see it turn. Heck even Elon Musk is paying attention and realizes what's going on


It's a major issue, that even the MSM can't ignore anymore because men are now opting out or going abroad. I do agree with OP, once Onlyfans blew up, it cemented to me that there are lot of men struggling but it's not all the men's fault the system is rigged against men, from feminism to the woke agenda and also the elites who want to destroy what God Made (men and women)
 

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America is in moral decay it's obvious just turn on the tv or youtube Pdiddygate, political woke agenda, psyops etc. We need to bring back Christian values in Christ. The tides are turning and if you're paying attention you will continue to see it turn. Heck even Elon Musk is paying attention and realizes what's going on


It's a major issue, that even the MSM can't ignore anymore because men are now opting out or going abroad. I do agree with OP, once Onlyfans blew up, it cemented to me that there are lot of men struggling but it's not all the men's fault the system is rigged against men, from feminism to the woke agenda and also the elites who want to destroy what God Made (men and women)
Solomon, these dudes literally go on a females lives to stare at the female who is JUST WATCHING TV!!! She is just sitting there doing homework or folding clothes. I never been so ashamed in my life. Hey I once bought this one girls OnlyFans video of her doing naughty things but atleast she was doing naughty things but these dudes are just paying to watch the girl sit there.

Also these girls treat you like a peasant on their stream. They ration out bits of attention like they are doing you a favor. Thats when I knew we were done. It was over bro. I cant do the streaming anymore.
 

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America is in moral decay it's obvious just turn on the tv or youtube Pdiddygate, political woke agenda, psyops etc. We need to bring back Christian values in Christ. The tides are turning and if you're paying attention you will continue to see it turn. Heck even Elon Musk is paying attention and realizes what's going on


It's a major issue, that even the MSM can't ignore anymore because men are now opting out or going abroad. I do agree with OP, once Onlyfans blew up, it cemented to me that there are lot of men struggling but it's not all the men's fault the system is rigged against men, from feminism to the woke agenda and also the elites who want to destroy what God Made (men and women)
Yes. Spot on post. Though I’m not Christian, I don’t deny the good in Christianity.

Pertinent quote from Roger Devlin, who is not a Christian himself:

“Romance fiction is, to put it mildly, inconsistent with the traditional Christian view of marriage, in which a woman freely enters into a covenant and is subsequently held strictly responsible for living in accordance with its terms. The contrast might be expressed thus: the Christian view of womanhood is ethical, while the romance-novel heroine is a merely natural being.”
 
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