englishman
Master Don Juan
PRICK TEASER!
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
AMAZING STORY. Vibrator,Dirty sex talk in bed, then BRUTAL rejection*
- Thread starter Naked_Elephant
- Start date
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Naked_Elephant
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yeah
A major one.
But its my own fault.
Wish I didn't feel anything for her. If she hooks up with someone else, which she will, its gonna hurt.
A major one.
But its my own fault.
Wish I didn't feel anything for her. If she hooks up with someone else, which she will, its gonna hurt.
Naked_Elephant
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maybe she just wants a **** buddy?
Naked_Elephant
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Actually
Isnt the not biting what got me here in the first place?
WeakMenNeverRise
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quit playin yourself
This chick is playing you like Halo 2. You are her little toy. You are like her toy poodle, a female one at that. GET THE POINT. You say she's a friend but if she was a friend she wouldn't have teased you like she did. That was just dirty. Her doing that basically said you are here for my amusement and my amusement only. If I were you, I would cut my losses but still keep her in my pocket. By that, I mean say in your mind f*ck her and move on but realize that your ultimate goal should be to bang this chick. To do that, QUIT coming off like your so desperate. Second, make her jealous without being to overt about it i.e. go out on a date with a tight female and let her know about it....discretely.
This chick is playing you like Halo 2. You are her little toy. You are like her toy poodle, a female one at that. GET THE POINT. You say she's a friend but if she was a friend she wouldn't have teased you like she did. That was just dirty. Her doing that basically said you are here for my amusement and my amusement only. If I were you, I would cut my losses but still keep her in my pocket. By that, I mean say in your mind f*ck her and move on but realize that your ultimate goal should be to bang this chick. To do that, QUIT coming off like your so desperate. Second, make her jealous without being to overt about it i.e. go out on a date with a tight female and let her know about it....discretely.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Alright guy, you hit me up for some advice so here it comes, both barrells.
I think you already realize how desperate you really are. And I don't have to tell you that desperation is a sticky cologne that repels women better than Raid kills roaches. You my friend have gone beyond even this with this girl (and I wont call her a woman because she exhibits the behavior of a pubescent girl).
As much as I hate to quote myself, you too are a boyfriend surrogate to this chick. She (like every woman) thrives on your exclusive attention, but lacks the interest to correspond with her intimacy. She gets all the benefits of a boyfriend with none of the responsibilities of reciprocating anything for the security you provide by playing the role of boyfriend. This is an analagous situation to a guy having a fvck buddy; he gets his primary desire fulfilled (sex) without reciprocating the security and/or attention she desires.
Now the question you need to ask yourself is, "why would this girl have any motivation to be intimate with you when you have displayed to her, by your behavior, that you are quite willing to play the 'boyfriend' role irrespective of any contingency for her intimacy?" She's got what she wants, your undivided attention, security and comfort, why start paying for it now?
I'd usually continue here with my standard 'bail out now' message for most guys in your position, but you and she have taken this scenario to the next level of extreme. You don't have to wonder if she's fvcking other guys on your effort, you already know she is. Yet inspite of this you still hold out on the illusion that she'll actually make good on her teasing and fvck you one night. So not only are you a psuedo-boyfriend content to accept her terms of non-contingent reinforcement, you'll continue to do so while being fully aware that the intimacy you are so desperate for is being freely given to other guys who make less effort to earn it (if they really 'earn' it at all).
You'd be better off masturbating on your own, at least you'd get off then. It wouldn't cost you a dime and you'd maintain some self-respect. This situation is only self-perpetuating, the more you try the more desperate you become, the more attention she gets from you, the longer you'll be frustrated.
I think you already realize how desperate you really are. And I don't have to tell you that desperation is a sticky cologne that repels women better than Raid kills roaches. You my friend have gone beyond even this with this girl (and I wont call her a woman because she exhibits the behavior of a pubescent girl).
As much as I hate to quote myself, you too are a boyfriend surrogate to this chick. She (like every woman) thrives on your exclusive attention, but lacks the interest to correspond with her intimacy. She gets all the benefits of a boyfriend with none of the responsibilities of reciprocating anything for the security you provide by playing the role of boyfriend. This is an analagous situation to a guy having a fvck buddy; he gets his primary desire fulfilled (sex) without reciprocating the security and/or attention she desires.
Now the question you need to ask yourself is, "why would this girl have any motivation to be intimate with you when you have displayed to her, by your behavior, that you are quite willing to play the 'boyfriend' role irrespective of any contingency for her intimacy?" She's got what she wants, your undivided attention, security and comfort, why start paying for it now?
I'd usually continue here with my standard 'bail out now' message for most guys in your position, but you and she have taken this scenario to the next level of extreme. You don't have to wonder if she's fvcking other guys on your effort, you already know she is. Yet inspite of this you still hold out on the illusion that she'll actually make good on her teasing and fvck you one night. So not only are you a psuedo-boyfriend content to accept her terms of non-contingent reinforcement, you'll continue to do so while being fully aware that the intimacy you are so desperate for is being freely given to other guys who make less effort to earn it (if they really 'earn' it at all).
You'd be better off masturbating on your own, at least you'd get off then. It wouldn't cost you a dime and you'd maintain some self-respect. This situation is only self-perpetuating, the more you try the more desperate you become, the more attention she gets from you, the longer you'll be frustrated.
SpeedRunner
Don Juan
I stopped reading halfway down. That was too painful to bare.
Naked_Elephant
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Her fvcking other guys.
That guy who she had really good sex with was a short affair and a thing of the past. She really hates him, she says he used her and never wants to see him again.
I don't know for a fact that she IS shagging other guys.
That guy who she had really good sex with was a short affair and a thing of the past. She really hates him, she says he used her and never wants to see him again.
I don't know for a fact that she IS shagging other guys.
cactus3178
Senior Don Juan
*Slaps Naked_Elephant*
Bro. I used to be just like you. I'm just going to give this to you straight:
Nobody here knows your situation exactly as well as you do. But, if the things you described here are an indicator, you've got a bit of a problem with this girl.
Here are the facts:
-Nobody knows if she's fucking any dudes or not, but she's not doing it with you.
-You came across as very desperate for sex, from her in particular.
-She's tossing out excuses left, right, and center to not sleep with you.
-Your not a challenge whatsoever.
IMO, your only possible way to save what you can of this abortion of a situation is to DROP IT completely. Do not talk about sex with her. As I see it, the best outcome this situation could possibly have is that you guys continue to be 'friends', and maybe, just maybe, things can be repaired.
The take home message, my friend, is that you have to be a challenge to women if you want to fling those panties across the room. Be desireable.
Read the bible.
Bro. I used to be just like you. I'm just going to give this to you straight:
Nobody here knows your situation exactly as well as you do. But, if the things you described here are an indicator, you've got a bit of a problem with this girl.
Here are the facts:
-Nobody knows if she's fucking any dudes or not, but she's not doing it with you.
-You came across as very desperate for sex, from her in particular.
-She's tossing out excuses left, right, and center to not sleep with you.
-Your not a challenge whatsoever.
IMO, your only possible way to save what you can of this abortion of a situation is to DROP IT completely. Do not talk about sex with her. As I see it, the best outcome this situation could possibly have is that you guys continue to be 'friends', and maybe, just maybe, things can be repaired.
The take home message, my friend, is that you have to be a challenge to women if you want to fling those panties across the room. Be desireable.
Read the bible.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.