"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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am I over her?

leeroyjenkins

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hey guys, I'd like your opinions and advice on something please!

there's this girl I've known for the last year and a half, we became best friends and I stopped seeing her as some girl I'd like to have sex with and fell in love (ouch). She has no idea I like her (actually doesn't, she's not just pretending for me) and basically we had a great relationship until last summer where we started falling out because she had a boyfriend and I got jealous.
I tried to cut contact at the time but I actually felt a lot of pain, so I did the easier thing and stuck with her, hoping I could cut contact down the line when we're seperated for a long period of time. Since then, our whole relationship has been screwed, I've loved and hated her at the same time and there are times when she can't deal with me...but...the other day we had a 2 hour argument and she said she didn't want to see me again, I put the phone down and I've ignored her texts/calls since...I've felt minimal pain and I think that may continue - am I over her? what do I need to do to get MORE over her? and is this therefore the best time to cut contact?

cheers guys
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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leeroyjenkins

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anyone? I need to know if I'm over her, 'cos then I can just start nailing other girls and send her a "really sorry but you were right, we should cut contact. you were good though! x" text
 

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When you cut contact with a women, you don't tell her your cutting contact, you just do it. From what I'm gathering, if you have to ask us, your not a man and likely not over her.

You need to move on with your life, you don't need our permission to start nailing other women. You also don't need to send her any text messages validating that she was right or telling her she is good.
 

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As Macavoy said, you haven't exactly shown that you're a man so far and you are obviously not over her (and that's an understatement).

You have a common case of KNOWING what you need to do, but denying it to yourself. You KNOW you need to cut ties because it's better for you. However, you're making excuses to yourself as to why things could work out. Deep down you don't need us to tell you that this is not going to work out. You know that you've overreached and it's starting to screw with your well-being.

So tell me, is stressing out over this girl good for your well-being? You know the answer. Once you start looking out for yourself and putting your life in good hands, you will only then see clearly as to what's happening. Right now, your mind is still fogged because your self-esteem is low and you have no center of gravity.

It's tough to get over a girl, we all know that. But it has to be done. The sooner the better. Please, take my advice, as myself and countless others have gone through the same thing. It may take awhile to see the light, but just keep reminding yourself that at the end of that tunnel is manhood.
 

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You're not over her or you wouldn't be crying about her still. It might take years before you get over her. And some guys never, ever get over a girl. It's like a terminal disease that's incurable.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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leeroyjenkins said:
...the other day we had a 2 hour argument and she said she didn't want to see me again, I put the phone down and I've ignored her texts/calls since...

Did she say she "NEVER wants to see you again?"

I have been told this recently and she seems to have meant it. But you say she called you after that... so what did she say exactly?
 
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