"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Am I missing something here? Pof vs Okc

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Lexington said:
POF= fatties, single moms, drug addicts and other trashy broads
OKC= liberal arts grads, stuck up, entitled....basically the cast of HBO's Girls

I'm sure it varies by area, but the OKC girls are of overall higher quality (of course that's not saying much). They can at least appreciate the fact that you can construct a coherent sentence.

Both sites are good for a few easy lays, but you'll always land higher quality women in the real world. You're much more likely to find defective goods online....attractive women already have an overabundance of suitors in the real world.
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And from personal experience, I've had much better success cold-approaching. There's something different that happens in person with a female, when you can convey your confidence and dominance. I'd compare it to applying for a job online vs. applying in person. Which one do you think you're going to have a better success rate with?

I've applied to a lot of jobs online - never heard back. When I interview in person, I nail it and close it. The interviewer can see my personality. I may not have the best resume, but to know me is to love me.

Excellent Post,I think a lot of guys just truly fear rejection and it's crippling to their ego. Personally I enjoy the challenge it is hard work and not as easy as shooting out messages but it's far more rewarding
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Lexington said:
OKC= liberal arts grads, stuck up, entitled....basically the cast of HBO's Girls
I've kindof gathered that..

One recently told me, a complete stranger, where she worked (some financial/engineering place on the 2nd floor of an outdoor shopping mall). I go there on business, for work, and she is nowhere to be found (it's a small office, like 3 people). She could've been out to lunch, or she could've just been a temporary, or she could've just worked there in the past and she was lying about working there now, and she told me that they treat her as if "she could be replaced" at any time. She was an engineer, in school.

She later said that she thought that I was treating her as a "friend" and not a girlfriend, so I just quit messaging her, heh, fvck her :) Friendly girl though, but I had my suspicions and she was 27 with no boyfriend, ahhhh stuck up, entitled..that's right
 

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I haven't done OKC myself, but my brother currently is. He said there is a question on there:

"Have you ever had sex with someone within the first hour of meeting them."

He said females answer "Yes" to this question quite often. Can anyone attest to this?
 

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origin138 said:
I haven't done OKC myself, but my brother currently is. He said there is a question on there:

"Have you ever had sex with someone within the first hour of meeting them."

He said females answer "Yes" to this question quite often. Can anyone attest to this?
This is true. In one of my older accounts on there I answered yes and girls would always reference that question and my answer and then conclude they don't want to meet up because of it.

There's also another question "what are you primarily concerned with right now, finding love or finding sex" or something along them lines.

Same deal, girls will choose sex but if that's your answer they'll instantly dismiss you as a potential partner.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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tryst type said:
This is true. In one of my older accounts on there I answered yes and girls would always reference that question and my answer and then conclude they don't want to meet up because of it.

There's also another question "what are you primarily concerned with right now, finding love or finding sex" or something along them lines.

Same deal, girls will choose sex but if that's your answer they'll instantly dismiss you as a potential partner.
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Espi said:
Avoid the "questionnaires." They simply allow the women to entertain more reasons to discount you.

I don't bother reading or answering any of that stuff. They were likely designed by women and/or gay men.

Questions like that are equivalent to shiat tests. They do you no good in your quest to meet women face to face, and who cares if those women are slvts? You never know how many guys a woman has fvucked. No use in wondering about that shiat.

Post up half-dozen solid photos and keep your profile somewhat mysterious and generic and aloof.
I agree. On okc the match percentage of a match, friendship, or enemy goes by how you answer your questions in comparison to hers.

What I do is answer only a few very generic ones (they give you option of skipping questions) that way you get a higher match ratio and the girls go into their fairy tale stories and subconsciously think you're a good mate.

The more questions you answer the lower your match percentage is unless she answered similar.
 

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Online dating during the cold winter months is tough sledding.

Wait till March. The spring is when people get active and new profiles of women will start popping up.

My theory is, the holiday season traditionally puts a huge strain on relationships and break ups happen during that time (divorces too). Come spring the women are ready to "get back out there" and start online. It's rebound city.
 

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I was getting barely any traffic the last few weeks, so thanks for making me feel better about myself...lol.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Espi said:
I'm willing to bet that most of the chicks you meet "in the real world" already have a profile posted up on the Internet.

Or, those chicks you meet "in the real world" are seriously thinking about subscribing to sites like match.com.

No such thing in my mind as "real world" versus online dating. All the same to me.
I'm inclined to agree, and I'll go one step further. I think the main reason that online dating looks worse than the "real world" is that in the real world women don't come with a horribly written profile advertising just how banal and/or dysfunctional they are. Instead, you get to waste weeks and months finding that out for yourself. Ignorance is bliss sometimes.
 

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Wilko said:
I'm inclined to agree, and I'll go one step further. I think the main reason that online dating looks worse than the "real world" is that in the real world women don't come with a horribly written profile advertising just how banal and/or dysfunctional they are. Instead, you get to waste weeks and months finding that out for yourself. Ignorance is bliss sometimes.
I disagree. You think that smoking hot college coed is on POF or OkC? I doubt it. She's got so many dudes falling over themselves to talk to her in her classes, at parties, at bars, out on the street etc. She gets more attention and suitors than she even knows what to do with.

The most attractive women have no need to go online because they are d*ck magnets. They get noticed and hit on wherever they go. Most of the broads online go there because "OMG! All the guyz I meet in real life are such loooosers!"
 

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Sure, to clarify, I'm not talking about the outliers (the nines and tens), those girls typically aren't online, no argument there. I'm talking about the average broad you're likely to meet in the real world vs her online equivalent. I'm saying the same broad will seem much less appealing online because her profile is going to make all her personality flaws immediately obvious, and that effect is partly responsible for the dubious reputation that OLD enjoys.

Here's a fun game, take a chick at random from the real world, and try to imagine what kind of profile she'd write - very sobering.
 
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