“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Am I missing something here? Pof vs Okc

tryst type

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So I have the same exact profile and pictures up on both sites, but literally no one on pof responses to messages in comparison to okc.

It'll show that they've viewed me but nothing. My success on okc is better.

What gives?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Dunno, I signed up on POF some years ago and hated it, quit almost immediately
 

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I like okc but they keep deleting my profiles! I have a good opener that I copy and paste, even tried altering it with every send hoping it won't trigger some kind of algorithm but it doesn't work. Who has time to send out a personal message to every person? :p
 

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What do you mean they keep deleting your profile ? OKC does ? Why ?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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tryst type said:
So I have the same exact profile and pictures up on both sites, but literally no one on pof responses to messages in comparison to okc.

It'll show that they've viewed me but nothing. My success on okc is better.

What gives?
Honestly it could be your area.

I use to have easier time on POF then OKC but I prefer OKC cause the quality of the average woman blows POF out the water. Sadly on OKC I get no response unless it's from bytches that live 2.5 hours away
 

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Solomon said:
Honestly it could be your area.

I use to have easier time on POF then OKC but I prefer OKC cause the quality of the average woman blows POF out the water. Sadly on OKC I get no response unless it's from bytches that live 2.5 hours away

Same city as Solomon with the same results. Met literally dozens of girls off POF over the years with ease. Had a profile on OKC for maybe a year and met 1 girl, and she wasn't even that attractive. Boggles my mind.
 

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I've used both with success. Recently deleted POF as I felt it had become too stale.

OKC has some HOT girls in the south FL area, especially Miami. If you get high ratings on your profile, you will eventually get an email from OKC saying that your matches have been adjusted.

I've heard good things about Match as well. My ex's friend is active there, she was chosen to be one of the contestants on the Bachelor if that tells you anything.
 

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Do you guys think this is a slow time of year for online?
 

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POF is terrible. I had a profile on there for one day and took it down.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Not sure if it's "slow" or not right now, online is super tough any time of year.

Some of the girls I've banged from POF or OKC have told me horror stories about how many messages they get. It's unreal.

Also if you have OKC, the A-list feature is very good. It's cheap, and it gives you some advantages.
 

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Just wondered, put profile back up after I broke a couple plates. In the summer I was getting views, emails, winks on match. Now it seems like tough sledding. Both times, same everything.
 

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I've noticed it comes in waves. I've dropped POF and focus more on OKC the girls seem better quality, even if I've seen their profile on POF the OKC layout makes them "appear" better lol

But yeah, right now it's slow and I'm getting little to no messages
 

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For sending out copy and pasted messages
Curious, why would you do that?
If you say something specific about their profile, wouldn't you get more serious consideration, thus improving your numbers?

Regarding POF, it worked ... a little, but I had much more success with Match. I think 3 out of 4 I messaged I would go out with. POF, I think they just get soooooo much attention with it being a free site.

Ultimately though, the best thing I ever did was give up on online dating.

SH
 

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Dear All,
Several posters mention that interest comes in waves....certainly you might not have a response for a fortnight,then you get literally a dozen strikes....Why I wonder...Morphic paths?....some lemming like urges?...something your own bio rhythns put into the ether?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I dunno what it is. I'm hip deep in walruses on match. Every woman I see in real life has a ring on. I spammed six in the 7-8 range online. If that doesn't work, I'm on a break.
 

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POF= fatties, single moms, drug addicts and other trashy broads
OKC= liberal arts grads, stuck up, entitled....basically the cast of HBO's Girls

I'm sure it varies by area, but the OKC girls are of overall higher quality (of course that's not saying much). They can at least appreciate the fact that you can construct a coherent sentence.

Both sites are good for a few easy lays, but you'll always land higher quality women in the real world. You're much more likely to find defective goods online....attractive women already have an overabundance of suitors in the real world.
 

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Lexington said:
Both sites are good for a few easy lays, but you'll always land higher quality women in the real world. You're much more likely to find defective goods online....women already have an overabundance of suitors in the real world.
Fixed it for ya!
 
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Lexington said:
POF= fatties, single moms, drug addicts and other trashy broads
OKC= liberal arts grads, stuck up, entitled....basically the cast of HBO's Girls

I'm sure it varies by area, but the OKC girls are of overall higher quality (of course that's not saying much). They can at least appreciate the fact that you can construct a coherent sentence.

Both sites are good for a few easy lays, but you'll always land higher quality women in the real world. You're much more likely to find defective goods online....attractive women already have an overabundance of suitors in the real world.
This x100. OKC had much better quality (POF is whale city), but I found it to be a waste of time. I had a great C&F profile with good pics, but had to struggle to even close average ass broads.

I was suggested a cute girl I'd known for a long time and emailed her asking how many emails she gets on average. At least 10 a day, she said. The hotter chicks get many more, I'm sure.

You'll see better success grabbing your balls and cold-approaching any and everywhere you go.

Like my boy Mike32ct says, "You have to be a sniper with it." Select your targets wisely and you'll see success.
 
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And from personal experience, I've had much better success cold-approaching. There's something different that happens in person with a female, when you can convey your confidence and dominance. I'd compare it to applying for a job online vs. applying in person. Which one do you think you're going to have a better success rate with?

I've applied to a lot of jobs online - never heard back. When I interview in person, I nail it and close it. The interviewer can see my personality. I may not have the best resume, but to know me is to love me.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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