"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Am I making right decision? Confused please help

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Girl I've been dating wants to drive 5 hours to meet with a boy she's had strong feelings for and cheated on her previous bf with once.

They met online and talked for years, she's only met him twice in real life due to distance. He'll be around (5 hours away as oppose to 15)

Once I heard of this I told her I didn't want to see her anymore if she's willing to drive 5 hours put in the time/effort/energy for a "friend" especially one she's had strong feelings for and cheated on ex with.

She claims she's just friendly and has no feelings for him in that sense. she also said she wouldn't go in which i replied that it still doesn't change anything, her initial reasons for without hesitation agreeing to would still be present and i had already felt she was disloyal.

Am I over reacting here?
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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No your not. Sounds like she wants to do what she always does. I hope she doesn't for your sake but if she does; leave.
 

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even if she doesn't go, i still feel her original decision justifies suspicion that i can't shake. she'd not be going for me not because she thinks it'd be a bad idea to our relationship
 

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She keeps fighting for me claiming she had no harmful intentions. Worth giving her a chance?
 

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Personally I'd put my foot down and make her fight for me. If she doesn't fight, then she's not worth having.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I would tell her that I was going to meet up with an old girlfriend while she did that
 

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tryst type said:
Girl I've been dating wants to drive 5 hours to meet with a boy she's had strong feelings for and cheated on her previous bf with once.

They met online and talked for years, she's only met him twice in real life due to distance. He'll be around (5 hours away as oppose to 15)

Once I heard of this I told her I didn't want to see her anymore if she's willing to drive 5 hours put in the time/effort/energy for a "friend" especially one she's had strong feelings for and cheated on ex with.

She claims she's just friendly and has no feelings for him in that sense. she also said she wouldn't go in which i replied that it still doesn't change anything, her initial reasons for without hesitation agreeing to would still be present and i had already felt she was disloyal.

Am I over reacting here?
Just buy her a black thong from Victoria's Secret, and some scented "massage oil" and a few packs of condoms and send her on her way!
 

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Nope.

You're not overreacting at all.

You've made the right decision to get rid of her.

She wants to fvck this guy so let her.

You won't be there for her when she gets back.

These are called negative consequences and if a chick doesn't get enough of them in her life for bad behaviour she'll think everything she does is ok.
 

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i wonder what kind of response she was looking from u when she basically was saying she's gonna meet up with the guy and bang the **** out of him...

now if a girl i cared about pretty much said that.. i'd tell her to go for it... then when she came back i wouldnt be around... simple as that... u cant keep a woman tied down.. she has to tie herself down to you.. its the only way it works.. seems this one is a lost cause...

i mean, logically, would you drive out 5 hours to meet a girl and not think about banging her? NO... i mean, does this girl take you for a fool? the audacity of women these days..
 

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Exactly. The 5 hour drive is what's making this unbelievable and hard to comprehend. She kept fighting for me through texts today and I repeatedly proved my point. She asked to please meet up tonight so she can show me how much she cares and explain better. Should I?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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A woman doesn't cheat unless she has a reason. Are you being too AFC with her?
 

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Yeah.

Meetup fvck her brains out and then say again "if you go to see that guy we are done".

Perfect ending to a perfect night.
 

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I'm starting to like KontrollerX, because we seem to tend to be on the same page.

My only addition to the things he has said is this:

If you decide to stay with her, don't attach yourself just yet. No matter how strongly she says she feels about you, don't get caught in the spiders web. She's cheated before, and there is a possibility she will do it again. Just stay detached for a while, and keep a keen eye out for suspicious behavior. If everything stays fine for a while, you then face the decision to take a chance and get down and dirty in a LTR, or next'ing her because of the so called suspicion you can't shake.
 

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Yeah.

Meetup fvck her brains out and then say again "if you go to see that guy we are done".

Perfect ending to a perfect night.
ha nice. thing is she has already said she won't go see him. issue i'm dealing with now is her initial response was that she would, with no hesitation. she changed her mind after i questioned it but doesn't mean she really never wanted to.

eh i guess i'll see what's up considering she technically didn't do anything incriminating yet. she knows i have 0 zolerance for bs behavior, i've been straight about my attitude towards shady girls from the get-go.

here's something interesting last night during the launch of this dilemma she stated "i've never been spoken to before the way you are talking to me" i asked what she meant and she responded "i just dont know how to respond to you or make you believe me, you're too firm about your opinions"

i liked hearing that ha
 

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tryst type said:
She claims she's just friendly and has no feelings for him in that sense. she also said she wouldn't go in
Tell her you would like to go with her. If she balks, give her a ticket to ride!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Keep that "firmness" up too tryst type.

LOL, man that sounded gay or like a d!ck joke ahahaha.

Seriously though man that is the right attitude to keep.

These chicks never stop trying to break a man down so you have to never stop being the man because this is kind of what turns them on and keeps them interested. You being a man and she being a chick etc.

Anyway its nice to hear she is supposedly calling this meeting off but remember with shady tricky chickies they will try and appease a boyfriend they are trying to keep with lies and then go do behind their boyfriends back what they told him upfront they were going to do to begin with.

So yeah the whole thing about supposedly not seeing this guy now could be one big setup and a lie so pay attention to any mysterious vacations or sudden family outings with her 2nd cousin's family or whatever the fvck excuse she makes to have to go away for a few days suddenly.
 

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yeah definetly Kontroller i'm with you on that. thing is most people think im jealous in a sense for this type of behavior but its the deception that kills me, if she wants to **** some guy so be it, just be honest so i can stop putting in time and effort into a fake relationship.

but these girls, they don't get it ha
 

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jealousy is acting insecure for no good reason. But this is a huge red flag, so acting out is a must in your situation. Sorry, but no way can you trust this girl. You have to draw the line somwwhere dude. Btw I wouldnt consider dating this girl after this.
 

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tick37 said:
A woman doesn't cheat unless she has a reason. Are you being too AFC with her?
Even if a guy isn't AFC he could be cheated on. You could be the smoothest DJ to ever walk the earth and be cheated on.

If she has a desire to cheat, she's going to cheat. If she's cheated on one of her Xs with guy in the past, she'll do it again.

Driving five hours is like driving from Fayetteville, NC to Atlanta, GA. What girl in her right mind would drive that far to just to see a guy and nothing else?

Think about it.
 

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Even if a guy isn't AFC he could be cheated on. You could be the smoothest DJ to ever walk the earth and be cheated on.

If she has a desire to cheat, she's going to cheat. If she's cheated on one of her Xs with guy in the past, she'll do it again.

Driving five hours is like driving from Fayetteville, NC to Atlanta, GA. What girl in her right mind would drive that far to just to see a guy and nothing else?

Think about it.
Yea, I didn't read much into the previous cheating she had done. She doesn't have a good track record.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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