“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Am I Bitter?

mtlwlu

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I don't know maybe I am, Anyways I took this girl out a few times, treated her to dinner, movies and mini golf etc... we've slept together a handful of times also. So I havent seen her in a few weeks just cause school and work have been hetic. I invite her over after shes done work and shes like "I dont want to come over after work cause i dont want everything between us to be about sex." WTF am I in the wrong here?
 

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am I in the wrong here?

Absolutely, but not in the way that you think you are. The problem is that you are taking her words on a literal level and attempting to make logic of them. That is how most men fail at communicating with women.

What she is telling you is simply how she feels. Preface most of what women say with "I feel as though..." That will make seem more sensible. And only pay attention to her actions. Tell her that of course it is not about just sex, then invite her over and do her. That will make sense to a woman.
 

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haha I was thinking the exact same thing. "Just come over to watch a movie then..."
 

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mtlwlu said:
I don't know maybe I am, Anyways I took this girl out a few times, treated her to dinner, movies and mini golf etc... we've slept together a handful of times also. So I havent seen her in a few weeks just cause school and work have been hetic.

Who's schooling and work has been hectic,your's or her's?


Because if the reason you two haven't seen each other in such a long time is because everytime you try to she throws up an excuse...it may be cause for concern.



mtlwlu said:
I invite her over after shes done work and shes like "I dont want to come over after work cause i dont want everything between us to be about sex." WTF am I in the wrong here?
I agree with Bible Belt.

You need to pay attention to was she's saying.


She didn't say she didn't want sex,she said she doesn't want EVERYTHING between you two,about you two,concerning you two,to be ONLY sex related.




When you invited her over to your place,she automatically assumed you'd want sex. And would she be correct in her assumption?



I also agree with Kingy. Take her out somewhere to show her that you enjoy simply being in her presence,that sex is just an added pleasure between you two and not the SOLE REASON you're dating her.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Bible_Belt said:
am I in the wrong here?

Absolutely, but not in the way that you think you are. The problem is that you are taking her words on a literal level and attempting to make logic of them. That is how most men fail at communicating with women.

What she is telling you is simply how she feels. Preface most of what women say with "I feel as though..." That will make seem more sensible. And only pay attention to her actions. Tell her that of course it is not about just sex, then invite her over and do her. That will make sense to a woman.

Agreed. Something I learned from AFC Adam is that she's setting the bar for him to meet in order to be with her. My friend got the ultimatum the other day from a girl he has been seeing off and on for a while. Basically she wants to be more than a fling. This is a low-grade version of demanding you make her your gf or she'll stop seeing with you.

My suggestion is to bring her over and do something, anything, and do NOT try to have sex. Leave HER hanging wondering why you didn't try to get one over on her, at least in her mind. Let her simmer. A solid version of this is giving her a massage and keeping it asexual as possible, like a pro. Or go sexual, but don't cross that threshold so it's more of a giant tease than anything else....
 

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If you feel like you are "bitter", you need to understand the underlying root cause for this. Do you have any insecurities? How confident do you feel about yourself?

Some people, when they see a hot person, immediately what comes to the surface of their mind is a bunch of insecurities about themselves. Such as: " I don't look good enough. I hate that she looks so hot! I don't think I can get her..."

Then these insecurities turn into anger and bitterness because you feel like you cannot accomplish your goal, which in this case, is the hot gal standing over at Starbucks.

We don't realize this is because it happens so fast. I just told you a slow-mo of what usually happens. What do you need to do?

You need to be confident. Get the body you want. Get the looks you want. Get a job if you can't afford anything. Be the way you want to be.

Be someone that makes you happy.
 

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So let me get this straight: you go ghost on a woman for weeks and then decide to randomly hit her up... and the first thing you offer is for her to come over???

Translation in her head:

"Hmm, he hasn't contacted me in a few weeks, so he must be either seeing someone else or banging someone else. Now that it hasn't worked out, he wants to hit me up so he can get sex from me, his 'leftover' that he couldn't even take out anyplace for the last few weeks? What am I, just a sex doll to him?? No waaaaay I'm going over to his place without a proper date first!"

And frankly, she has every right to feel that way. Even if your only intent is to have her over to bed her, you don't have that be the first thing you suggest after a long absence. No - instead, you hit her up and say "Hey, sorry it's been a while, I've been really busy. Let's meet up someplace and catch up." By meeting with her IN PUBLIC, she won't get the feeling you're just meeting up for the sex... which, ironically, will allow you to get her back to your place a lot easier after some catch-up conversation.
 

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mtlwlu said:
I invite her over after shes done work and shes like "I dont want to come over after work cause i dont want everything between us to be about sex."
I would just say "OK" to that. If you do any convincing or defend yourself she will use it against you. If you invite her over for a movie and do not have sex she won't have to have sex with you for a long time because you will have agreed to it.
 
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