"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Always Next A Girl For Having A Kid?

SgtSplacker

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The way I see it a woman with a child needs to make up for that inconvenience to you. From looking over the the dating sites women look for men with ingredient stickers on them practically. So why not expect something more from her? Now i'm not going into exactly what I would expect from her because we all have different needs. I just feel that these relationships should not fall into the man pursues and instigates everything scenario. She needs to try harder than regular women with more to offer period.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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thinkinblue613

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Red flag all the way.

Not only because she has a kid, but you are not even stable enough to handle this relationship if it escalates into something more serious. Don't forget that you have to feed and help yourself before helping anyone else. Regardless of dating women, you need to get your sh!t together first bro.

Since you're going to go for it anyways... Just remember, when it comes for her to choose between you and her daughter, she will pick the kid nine times out of nine.
 

Asasione

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I absolutely agree with the idea of it, though emotions tend to play a major role in people's decisions. My friends gf had a kid with another guy while they were together, she claims she was pregnant before they got together. Well the kids out and a major burden on him and I can't stomach how he can tolerate it, being 23 and dealing with kids is a fools errand. In conclusion he should next her ass but he ain't listening to me, sadly:cry:
 

Deadly_Ripped

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I think that you should try it out, and if it doesn't work then you can use that life experience to make a judgement about the next single mom that you meet, unless of course you end up staying with this one.

Every woman is a little different, and some make bad decisions or have accidents in their youth that they pay for throughout their young-adult life. If her motherhood doesn't bother you, then that's all that really matters.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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joverby

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I appreciate your varied advice. I think this is one of those questions you can only answer for yourself. Just because every person is different including the potential MILF. Some will be cooler than others and be more available than others.

I'm going to give her a call before Friday to meet me out when I play. I think it will be worth it to try it out. I'm pretty confident it can end in a lay anyway. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
 
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