Id like to think I've come a long way from my AFC days, been able to get women Id never thought Id get 3 years ago, and can cold approach like a legend. However when it comes to dates and the good night end, I always freeze on the initial first kiss, I always second guess myself and by the time my brain comprehends whats going on its too late and I settle for a hug. This is my last major issue I have to deal with before I can shake my AFC days for good, any advice?
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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Always chicken out of the Good night Kiss
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Scars
Master Don Juan
You're thinking about it too much, allowing your insecurities and fears to fill up your head. Remember the 3 second rule. The second you think about kissing her just do it. The only way to over-come this is to attack it head on.
Paintballguy
Master Don Juan
Just go for it! What do you have to loose? Even if you get rejected for the kiss, it's not the end of the world. I had a chick turn me down for the first kiss, but I was banging her next week.
Hey, don't worry about it. I STILL get hung up on this once in a while, and I've been at this for a decent time.
My problem used to be that I was looking for 100% certain signs of interest before making a move. The snag with this is that, women being women, they won't always give you absolutely positive signals to go in for the kill.
You need to pay attention during the night. Watch her indicate her interest (she is, or else she wouldn't be there, right?). Note it in your head. When it comes time for the goodnight kiss, just go through your catalogue in your head, remember all the subtle signs that you noticed, and use those to bolster your confidence for the kiss.
My problem used to be that I was looking for 100% certain signs of interest before making a move. The snag with this is that, women being women, they won't always give you absolutely positive signals to go in for the kill.
You need to pay attention during the night. Watch her indicate her interest (she is, or else she wouldn't be there, right?). Note it in your head. When it comes time for the goodnight kiss, just go through your catalogue in your head, remember all the subtle signs that you noticed, and use those to bolster your confidence for the kiss.
Honestly If I have any doubts I just say a line I read on here ages ago... a simple "Would you like to kiss me?" Works every time.
Also I try for the kiss before the end of the date, maybe a quiet moment at the bar or outside for some fresh air or some place with a nice view...you know **** like that. That way a kiss at the end of the night is guaranteed maybe even get some ass hahahah
Also I try for the kiss before the end of the date, maybe a quiet moment at the bar or outside for some fresh air or some place with a nice view...you know **** like that. That way a kiss at the end of the night is guaranteed maybe even get some ass hahahah
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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
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Just remember most of the time the girl wants you to kiss them and if you don't you will make them feel weird and think they did something wrong.
Byezbozhniy
Don Juan
If your game is at an advanced level then you should know exactly how far you can push. I used to get hung up on this kind of stuff simply because my focus was on myself rather than the bird. Now I know my targets and just dominate.
If you're looking for a 'one liner' to help things along then Julian's is ok, but I used to prefer the "are you thinking about kissing me??" line. "Would you like to kiss me" seems to be asking for permission.
Still, the best advice I can ever give, about anything, is read Pook, know your target and dominate.
If you're looking for a 'one liner' to help things along then Julian's is ok, but I used to prefer the "are you thinking about kissing me??" line. "Would you like to kiss me" seems to be asking for permission.
Still, the best advice I can ever give, about anything, is read Pook, know your target and dominate.
Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
Best thing is to not wait until the goodbye to wonder if you should kiss or worry about how to go for the kiss.
Look for, it is happening through out the "date", and create opportunities to create some type of physical contact, that will in turn lead to kissing, way before the end of the night.
You kiss her earlier, the goodnight kiss is just a given, a formality, and nobody will feel weird about it.
Look for, it is happening through out the "date", and create opportunities to create some type of physical contact, that will in turn lead to kissing, way before the end of the night.
You kiss her earlier, the goodnight kiss is just a given, a formality, and nobody will feel weird about it.
Dante420
Master Don Juan
Be sure your making contact with her before your expecting to part ways so it's a seamless transition to that good night kiss.
What Gangster said...Gangster Of Love said:
I always made sure that I had made contact of some form throughout the date. If things seem very 'staid' or 'victorian' up until the end of the night, she likely isn't feeling much for you. You still SHOULD try and go for it regardless but if you're so uncertain that you won't chance it then it's likely there isn't a vibe there.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Accension
Senior Don Juan
This always used to happen to me and I found the solution.
It incremented from how I'd initiate the date.
So basically how you open the date sets the escalation tone.
Rather than awkwardly putting it off to the steriotypical end of the date, you should have already escalated to a kiss in the middle of the date or risk the stupid movie end..
In short escalate from the VERY start of the date because you can't expect to achieve the kiss when you haven't even touched her all night..
- and most of all quit that putting it off to the lame goodbye-please-kiss-me-it's-expected-kiss!
It incremented from how I'd initiate the date.
- If I just greeted her with no hug I'd still have to hug her later or skip escalation and try get a kiss close from no escalation..
- If I hugged her, I'd have to escalate from there.
- If I kissed her on the cheek the kiss close was very easy.
So basically how you open the date sets the escalation tone.
Rather than awkwardly putting it off to the steriotypical end of the date, you should have already escalated to a kiss in the middle of the date or risk the stupid movie end..
In short escalate from the VERY start of the date because you can't expect to achieve the kiss when you haven't even touched her all night..
- and most of all quit that putting it off to the lame goodbye-please-kiss-me-it's-expected-kiss!
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
If she will let you touch her hair, then she wants to kiss you. Start on her neck behind her ear and work your way to her lips.