"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Alright, time to be completely honest with myself

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I don't succeed with hot women because I can't make myself believe that I deserve them


There's no other explanation for why I can easily make friends with top tier people (good looking, successful, intelligent) and I can't get a girlfriend of the same caliber. The reason is I totally believe that I deserve the best friends and I act congruent to that. I don't believe I deserve a hot GF so I act congruent to that and women smell it instantly. Today I was making friends with exactly what I want in a girlfriend - a good looking, young, smart, successful, jacked middle eastern dude in awesome shape. If the male version of that wants to be best friends with me, then the female version of that will want to date me if I'm being the best version of myself... which means I clearly am not.


Okay, now that i know that, what's the next step? How do I make myself stop believing that women are so difficult?
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I don't succeed with hot women because I can't make myself believe that I deserve them


There's no other explanation for why I can easily make friends with top tier people (good looking, successful, intelligent) and I can't get a girlfriend of the same caliber. The reason is I totally believe that I deserve the best friends and I act congruent to that. I don't believe I deserve a hot GF so I act congruent to that and women smell it instantly


Okay, now that i know that, what's the next step? How do I make myself stop believing that women are so difficult?
re-read your threads, the answers are there.
 

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Need to work on yourself brother. You need to infuse in yourself that you are worth women and they should be only so lucky to be in your presence. You should also see a therapist. You are way too young to think like this.
 

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Need to work on yourself brother. You need to infuse in yourself that you are worth women and they should be only so lucky to be in your presence. You should also see a therapist. You are way too young to think like this.
He needs to start ****ing. To feel entitled to sex. He's currently a beta friend to these women who are "hot".
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Need to work on yourself brother. You need to infuse in yourself that you are worth women and they should be only so lucky to be in your presence. You should also see a therapist. You are way too young to think like this.
I have some really toxic thinking patterns

I've convinced myself that women only want a man who is insanely perfect and I'm crazy harsh on myself

I don't appreciate my good traits in myself in terms of being a good person as it relates to women because I've convinced myself that women are an impossible to understand alien species.

I convinced myself a long long time ago that dating was impossible and that I would never have a girlfriend. I think this is because as a kid, I was teased and mocked for my lack of dating life (I was fat in high school) and I just internalized it so hard and I can't get it out of my head
 

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I have some really toxic thinking patterns

I've convinced myself that women only want a man who is insanely perfect and I'm crazy harsh on myself

I don't appreciate my good traits in myself in terms of being a good person as it relates to women because I've convinced myself that women are an impossible to understand alien species.

I convinced myself a long long time ago that dating was impossible and that I would never have a girlfriend. I think this is because as a kid, I was teased and mocked for my lack of dating life (I was fat in high school) and I just internalized it so hard and I can't get it out of my head
You mind is your own worst enemy. You need to stop giving a crap what others may think about you. However, you should see a therapist to help work you through your thinking process. You are young, so this can be corrected. If not, you will start to get really resentful of women. TBH, it's not entirely their fault. They have pop culture's icons such as Kim Kardashian, those real house hoars, Megan Trailor, Lea Dunham, etc. all telling them to treat men like crap and they are superior.

Just work on yourself. It will take time and get a rubber band and wear it on your wrist. Why? Simple. When you start thinking these nasty thoughts, you pull the rubber band. Thus, helping you stop thinking negatively about yourself. It works.
 

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He needs to start ****ing. To feel entitled to sex. He's currently a beta friend to these women who are "hot".
It's not as easy as you think. Most men who are still in the process of working on themselves can fvck a hippo. Yea, any man can have sex with an overweight hog beast, but most cannot push themselves to do it. It may feel the same inside, but I'd never be able to get it up. Most men want at least average looking women and higher. Problem is, even average looking women can have this better than thou attitude. Someone with a low self-esteem wouldn't be able to take that much rejection. It's tough out there for most.
 

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Something I always wonder about Threads like this... This not just directed to the OP.

Why do you believe you deserve hot women ?

Why would a hot woman even want to be with you ?

Some people are destined to lead mediocre lives with mediocre partners. Not everybody gets the 9/10's. The faster many here realize that the happier they will be.
 

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Today I was making friends with exactly what I want in a girlfriend - a good looking, young, smart, successful, jacked middle eastern dude in awesome shape. If the male version of that wants to be best friends with me, then the female version of that will want to date me if I'm being the best version of myself... which means I clearly am not.
Why don't you just date guys... you're always checking them out anyways
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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what I want in a girlfriend - a good looking, young, smart, successful, jacked middle eastern dude in awesome shape
threw up a little in my mouth when I read this..
 

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Something I always wonder about Threads like this... This not just directed to the OP.

Why do you believe you deserve hot women ?

Why would a hot woman even want to be with you ?

Some people are destined to lead mediocre lives with mediocre partners. Not everybody gets the 9/10's. The faster many here realize that the happier they will be.
What do you mean? Why wouldn't a guy like myself have a hot gF?
 

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What do you mean? Why wouldn't a guy like myself have a hot gF?
I know you want to have a hot girlfriend but but what makes you think you are so deserving?... Why should they want you ?

Think deep... Again... this is not just for you....
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I know you want to have a hot girlfriend but but what makes you think you are so deserving?... Why should they want you ?

Think deep... Again... this is not just for you....
hhhmmm I'm very strong in all areas - looks, money and genuinely being a very good loving, honest, loyal person


few men are any good in any of those 3 areas, much less all 3
 

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hhhmmm I'm very strong in all areas - looks, money and genuinely being a very good loving, honest, loyal person


few men are any good in any of those 3 areas, much less all 3
But yet you're not getting them... Why ?.... Why do you think that is ?
 

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I got that "I don't deserve them"....

I'm just looking at the why ?.... What about you do they "smell" ?

Not bashing or making fun.
 

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Honestly I’d recommend therapy or doing some kind of psychological conditioning on yourself. Read back on all the threads you’ve made - they all have this never ending central theme around this issue. It’s circular thinking and rumination.

You need to shift gears and recognize that there’s a bigger issue underlying here than getting a girlfriend. What happens if you get ‘the perfect girlfriend’ - and then lose her (like we all most likely do)? Will you be able to carry on?

Which is better - being employable, or being employed?

I recommend spending an hour or two and reading back through all the threads and posts you’ve made, and pretend someone else made them. See what kind of thought process pops up. I’m sure you’ll recognize something to consider.

I’d post more of your threads but one will be enough.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/thread...y-progress-in-dating-very-frustrating.248443/
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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