"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Alright, I have a problem

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OK, first post, sorry if you don't think I should be making a thread but its a bad situation, I think.

There is this girl who I really like, from what I know of her, but she says very little, she is even more socially anxious than I am. Not many people know her either, she doesn't talk enough. I want to get to know her, but I'm only in one class with her and I know it would freak her out if I came on too strong, as with most girls. It's not just a case of wanting to get laid, I really want to be with her. I am more popular than she is, and we all know how clique-ish highschool can be, but I would take a step down to get with her.

What can I do?

Thanks in advance for the help, guys.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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You should start by talking to her, like saying hey and stuff alot.
It'll make her feel more comfortable if you show her that you're a friendly person, and you'll develop your relationship from there.
Just small talk increasing in size, and when both of you are comfortable together try out some of your DJing masterwork.
 

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Grand Wizzard Alamar said:
You should start by talking to her, like saying hey and stuff alot.
It'll make her feel more comfortable if you show her that you're a friendly person, and you'll develop your relationship from there.
Just small talk increasing in size, and when both of you are comfortable together try out some of your DJing masterwork.
That seems like a good thing to do. I don't want to do any of this '****y and funny' or 'play it mean keep her keen' stuff, in my experience it works on only a few girls and she definitely is not one of them. Besides, I like her too much for it.
 

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Yeah it really does work on a limited amount of girls, but you gotta be friendly with the more AFC ones. It's like showing them attention, if they don't really respond to it after awhile, cut that attention and they'll probably miss it alot and the person who was giving it to them.

Just a theory.
 
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****y funny works on more than a limited amount of girls. The only women I've found it not to work on is extremely shy ones, which to me are a waste of time. If she can't take a laugh, she can't be all too much fun.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Actually I think you have to be more funny and less ****y with the shyer ones.
 

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If you are a lot more popular than her, you do not have very many things to do! Right now, you have already set yourself in a pedestal a lot higher than hers, so YOU are the leader. Treat her as one of your "best friends", start saying hi her more often and start having mild conversations with her, and build up from there. Now, ****y humour can still work with shy girls as long as you use slightly more humour than ****iness in your jokes, and as long as you only use this type of humour once every blue moon.
 

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You can't wear out the word hi, it's just a friendly greeting.
If someone's like "why the hell do you always say hi to me??" well their reaction makes no sense at all.

Use the hello to your advantage. Try makign up some kind of funny greeting to make them laugh even.
 

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C+F and the other such techniques will work on every girl. It's how you apply them that changes depending on the girl. As said above, shyer girls need more funny than ****y. And more outgoing and vain girls will need more ****y. Basic rules still apply. Treat her like she's a friend you've known for years. Get in as much kino as possible without seeming creepy. Try and flick her 'boyfriend switches' through things like holding her hand. Stay at a higher status than her etc.
 
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