Bonafide
Senior Don Juan
Lol, I bet u will never get laid...everybody probably sees you as a joke anyhow - a sudden change huh? suddenly the geek is kicking innocent kids backpack lmfao, roflmfao...tough guy - that kid should of choked your ass out
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Alright guys, here's my plan and my new look!
- Thread starter coolf1r3
- Start date
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Ahh listen to all the dweebs here crying about some pathetic guy being kicked in the backpack. The kid who got kicked probably is a tool - so he gets abused.
I, on the other hand, would not pick on people like that. I usually stand up for those who can't stand up for themselves. That's what a king does.
I, on the other hand, would not pick on people like that. I usually stand up for those who can't stand up for themselves. That's what a king does.
coolf1r3
Don Juan
Choked my ass out? Geek? You, sir, have no idea how wrong you are. Roflmao. Choked a 3rd degree black-belt out? Good luck.:crackup:Bonafide said:
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Everyone else, how about offering some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Again, please stop bashing me for it. I made a mistake. It's not like you guys are/were perfect, either.
coolf1r3
Don Juan
Today:
I went to the mall to see where I was in terms of confidence/approaching/etc. It turns out that I've made progress, but no giant leaps (yet). In total, I approached four people, 3 girls and 1 guy. I spent three hours at the mall there but most of that time was spent looking around for girls, shying away from HBs, watching if my parents were anywhere to be seen, and shopping. Unfortunately, Sunday is a horrible day to pick up girls between the ages of 15 and 17. Most of the girls I saw there looked 12 and were with their parents! The first girl I approached was a girl I knew went to my school. I had never spoken with her before, so I deemed it as a cold approach. As we were about to walk by eachother, I called her name and she said "yeah!" We engaged in small talk about a mutual friend, I asked if she was going to be at so-and-so's party next weekend, etc. The whole time, I noticed that she was acting a little shifty. Then, I realized that I was also acting nervous, which she probably picked up on, which made her nervous. After sensing this, I realized that there was no point to continuing and I would get nothing out of this. I broke away and went off to find another girl. For the next half hour, I let a few HBs pass me up because I just lost my nerve when I decided to approach them. Fvck me. I finally found another girl who was leaning up against a column, looking somewhat lost and confused. I walked up to her and said "Hey, how's it going?" She looked at me, looked down, and said "Good...excuse me." And she walked away from me. I walked away also, thinking to myself, "Damn. Her loss, oh well." Another hour of shopping, uncompleted approaches, and wistful thinking later, I walked into a shoe store. I walked up to the nearest male employee and asked him a few questions about shoes, which style he likes, etc. I found the pair that I wanted, which were incidentally the same pair he was wearing, and went up to the register. A female employee was there, mulling over a restaurant menu. I approached her, said hello, and commented on the fact that she looked incredibly bored. She smiled and replied with "Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out what to order for lunch. No one is telling me what they want." Conversation continued a bit, nothing important, and I made my purchase. I told the girl to have a great day and ejected. On my way out, I thanked the sales associate with a handshake, he told me to find him the next time I come to the store and gave me his name. I said thanks and left. I left the mall feeling bitter. Why did she just walk away? Was I being nervous again? Probably. Man, whatever. Today was a good learning day for me. These failures weren't failures at all, they made what I need to work on glaringly obvious. I apparently still need to work on inner-game and approaching. Oh, I also thought of a really good opener when I got a call from my buddy:
CF: "Hey, I've got a question for you."
HB: "Ummm...ok."
CF: "My buddy went overseas a few months ago to fight in Iraq. Three months into Iraq, he gets a letter from his girlfriend, breaking up with him. She broke up with him becuase "I never get to see you and I'm just so lonely." My friend was devastated. Do you agree with what his ex-girlfriend did?"
Best part is that this actually happened (My friend is out of Iraq now, but this happened when he was there.)
I suppose that today wasn't a TOTAL failure, but still, I'm so upset with myself.
:cuss:
I went to the mall to see where I was in terms of confidence/approaching/etc. It turns out that I've made progress, but no giant leaps (yet
). In total, I approached four people, 3 girls and 1 guy. I spent three hours at the mall there but most of that time was spent looking around for girls, shying away from HBs, watching if my parents were anywhere to be seen, and shopping. Unfortunately, Sunday is a horrible day to pick up girls between the ages of 15 and 17. Most of the girls I saw there looked 12 and were with their parents! The first girl I approached was a girl I knew went to my school. I had never spoken with her before, so I deemed it as a cold approach. As we were about to walk by eachother, I called her name and she said "yeah!" We engaged in small talk about a mutual friend, I asked if she was going to be at so-and-so's party next weekend, etc. The whole time, I noticed that she was acting a little shifty. Then, I realized that I was also acting nervous, which she probably picked up on, which made her nervous. After sensing this, I realized that there was no point to continuing and I would get nothing out of this. I broke away and went off to find another girl. For the next half hour, I let a few HBs pass me up because I just lost my nerve when I decided to approach them. Fvck me. I finally found another girl who was leaning up against a column, looking somewhat lost and confused. I walked up to her and said "Hey, how's it going?" She looked at me, looked down, and said "Good...excuse me." And she walked away from me. I walked away also, thinking to myself, "Damn. Her loss, oh well." Another hour of shopping, uncompleted approaches, and wistful thinking later, I walked into a shoe store. I walked up to the nearest male employee and asked him a few questions about shoes, which style he likes, etc. I found the pair that I wanted, which were incidentally the same pair he was wearing, and went up to the register. A female employee was there, mulling over a restaurant menu. I approached her, said hello, and commented on the fact that she looked incredibly bored. She smiled and replied with "Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out what to order for lunch. No one is telling me what they want." Conversation continued a bit, nothing important, and I made my purchase. I told the girl to have a great day and ejected. On my way out, I thanked the sales associate with a handshake, he told me to find him the next time I come to the store and gave me his name. I said thanks and left. I left the mall feeling bitter. Why did she just walk away? Was I being nervous again? Probably. Man, whatever. Today was a good learning day for me. These failures weren't failures at all, they made what I need to work on glaringly obvious. I apparently still need to work on inner-game and approaching. Oh, I also thought of a really good opener when I got a call from my buddy:CF: "Hey, I've got a question for you."
HB: "Ummm...ok."
CF: "My buddy went overseas a few months ago to fight in Iraq. Three months into Iraq, he gets a letter from his girlfriend, breaking up with him. She broke up with him becuase "I never get to see you and I'm just so lonely." My friend was devastated. Do you agree with what his ex-girlfriend did?"
Best part is that this actually happened (My friend is out of Iraq now, but this happened when he was there.)
I suppose that today wasn't a TOTAL failure, but still, I'm so upset with myself.
:cuss:
Bonafide
Senior Don Juan
coolf1r3 said:Choked my ass out? Geek? You, sir, have no idea how wrong you are. Roflmao. Choked a 3rd degree black-belt out? Good luck.:crackup:
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Everyone else, how about offering some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Again, please stop bashing me for it. I made a mistake. It's not like you guys are/were perfect, either.
Oops, looks like you just qualified yourself to me.
Back to the drawing board BOY. HAHA.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
alnite
Don Juan
You are doing just fine, bro! You are on the right track now. Keep the balls rolling.
You are still in high-school after all. Your pool of girls is still shallow and small. Once you have grown up a bit, the pool gets widen and deepen, and by this time you would be a natural.
You are still in high-school after all. Your pool of girls is still shallow and small. Once you have grown up a bit, the pool gets widen and deepen, and by this time you would be a natural.
coolf1r3
Don Juan
Today:
Came to school late, the girls I saw in the hallway, I smiled and said hello to. Both said hi back. I was vocal-ish today. I didn't speak ALL that much, but I'm content. I'm about to go to the gym after a light snack, work on my upper body. Man, change is tough.
Came to school late, the girls I saw in the hallway, I smiled and said hello to. Both said hi back. I was vocal-ish today. I didn't speak ALL that much, but I'm content. I'm about to go to the gym after a light snack, work on my upper body. Man, change is tough.
coolf1r3
Don Juan
Today:
Went to the gym, played some Gears 2, then went to a friend's house for the night. Can't wait to go to the club Thursday night!:rockon:
Went to the gym, played some Gears 2, then went to a friend's house for the night. Can't wait to go to the club Thursday night!:rockon:
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
MisterMcGee
Master Don Juan
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why do we care?
CP3WOO
Don Juan
Good job. You just picked on the kid that already gets picked on everyday of his sad life. Don't be a tool. Do something that no one has the balls to do, be the kids friend. Girls would definately respect you for that.
Your enthusiasm is awesome dude, but you're doing it all wrong. Instead of updating us on what bullsh!t you're doing each day (like we care you played a video game), how about apologizing to that kid first? Life isn't about how many girls you can get, but you're still in High School so I'll let that slide. Hopefully you finally wake up someday and cease being the douche you (currently) are before you piss off the wrong person and they kick your face in.coolf1r3 said:
coolf1r3
Don Juan
I already did. Stop badgering me about it!Jon55 said:
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
betterthandead
Senior Don Juan
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you look the same
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.