Bonafide
Senior Don Juan
Lol, I bet u will never get laid...everybody probably sees you as a joke anyhow - a sudden change huh? suddenly the geek is kicking innocent kids backpack lmfao, roflmfao...tough guy - that kid should of choked your ass out
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Alright guys, here's my plan and my new look!
- Thread starter coolf1r3
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Ahh listen to all the dweebs here crying about some pathetic guy being kicked in the backpack. The kid who got kicked probably is a tool - so he gets abused.
I, on the other hand, would not pick on people like that. I usually stand up for those who can't stand up for themselves. That's what a king does.
I, on the other hand, would not pick on people like that. I usually stand up for those who can't stand up for themselves. That's what a king does.
coolf1r3
Don Juan
Choked my ass out? Geek? You, sir, have no idea how wrong you are. Roflmao. Choked a 3rd degree black-belt out? Good luck.:crackup:Bonafide said:
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Everyone else, how about offering some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Again, please stop bashing me for it. I made a mistake. It's not like you guys are/were perfect, either.
coolf1r3
Don Juan
Today:
I went to the mall to see where I was in terms of confidence/approaching/etc. It turns out that I've made progress, but no giant leaps (yet). In total, I approached four people, 3 girls and 1 guy. I spent three hours at the mall there but most of that time was spent looking around for girls, shying away from HBs, watching if my parents were anywhere to be seen, and shopping. Unfortunately, Sunday is a horrible day to pick up girls between the ages of 15 and 17. Most of the girls I saw there looked 12 and were with their parents! The first girl I approached was a girl I knew went to my school. I had never spoken with her before, so I deemed it as a cold approach. As we were about to walk by eachother, I called her name and she said "yeah!" We engaged in small talk about a mutual friend, I asked if she was going to be at so-and-so's party next weekend, etc. The whole time, I noticed that she was acting a little shifty. Then, I realized that I was also acting nervous, which she probably picked up on, which made her nervous. After sensing this, I realized that there was no point to continuing and I would get nothing out of this. I broke away and went off to find another girl. For the next half hour, I let a few HBs pass me up because I just lost my nerve when I decided to approach them. Fvck me. I finally found another girl who was leaning up against a column, looking somewhat lost and confused. I walked up to her and said "Hey, how's it going?" She looked at me, looked down, and said "Good...excuse me." And she walked away from me. I walked away also, thinking to myself, "Damn. Her loss, oh well." Another hour of shopping, uncompleted approaches, and wistful thinking later, I walked into a shoe store. I walked up to the nearest male employee and asked him a few questions about shoes, which style he likes, etc. I found the pair that I wanted, which were incidentally the same pair he was wearing, and went up to the register. A female employee was there, mulling over a restaurant menu. I approached her, said hello, and commented on the fact that she looked incredibly bored. She smiled and replied with "Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out what to order for lunch. No one is telling me what they want." Conversation continued a bit, nothing important, and I made my purchase. I told the girl to have a great day and ejected. On my way out, I thanked the sales associate with a handshake, he told me to find him the next time I come to the store and gave me his name. I said thanks and left. I left the mall feeling bitter. Why did she just walk away? Was I being nervous again? Probably. Man, whatever. Today was a good learning day for me. These failures weren't failures at all, they made what I need to work on glaringly obvious. I apparently still need to work on inner-game and approaching. Oh, I also thought of a really good opener when I got a call from my buddy:
CF: "Hey, I've got a question for you."
HB: "Ummm...ok."
CF: "My buddy went overseas a few months ago to fight in Iraq. Three months into Iraq, he gets a letter from his girlfriend, breaking up with him. She broke up with him becuase "I never get to see you and I'm just so lonely." My friend was devastated. Do you agree with what his ex-girlfriend did?"
Best part is that this actually happened (My friend is out of Iraq now, but this happened when he was there.)
I suppose that today wasn't a TOTAL failure, but still, I'm so upset with myself.
:cuss:
I went to the mall to see where I was in terms of confidence/approaching/etc. It turns out that I've made progress, but no giant leaps (yet
). In total, I approached four people, 3 girls and 1 guy. I spent three hours at the mall there but most of that time was spent looking around for girls, shying away from HBs, watching if my parents were anywhere to be seen, and shopping. Unfortunately, Sunday is a horrible day to pick up girls between the ages of 15 and 17. Most of the girls I saw there looked 12 and were with their parents! The first girl I approached was a girl I knew went to my school. I had never spoken with her before, so I deemed it as a cold approach. As we were about to walk by eachother, I called her name and she said "yeah!" We engaged in small talk about a mutual friend, I asked if she was going to be at so-and-so's party next weekend, etc. The whole time, I noticed that she was acting a little shifty. Then, I realized that I was also acting nervous, which she probably picked up on, which made her nervous. After sensing this, I realized that there was no point to continuing and I would get nothing out of this. I broke away and went off to find another girl. For the next half hour, I let a few HBs pass me up because I just lost my nerve when I decided to approach them. Fvck me. I finally found another girl who was leaning up against a column, looking somewhat lost and confused. I walked up to her and said "Hey, how's it going?" She looked at me, looked down, and said "Good...excuse me." And she walked away from me. I walked away also, thinking to myself, "Damn. Her loss, oh well." Another hour of shopping, uncompleted approaches, and wistful thinking later, I walked into a shoe store. I walked up to the nearest male employee and asked him a few questions about shoes, which style he likes, etc. I found the pair that I wanted, which were incidentally the same pair he was wearing, and went up to the register. A female employee was there, mulling over a restaurant menu. I approached her, said hello, and commented on the fact that she looked incredibly bored. She smiled and replied with "Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out what to order for lunch. No one is telling me what they want." Conversation continued a bit, nothing important, and I made my purchase. I told the girl to have a great day and ejected. On my way out, I thanked the sales associate with a handshake, he told me to find him the next time I come to the store and gave me his name. I said thanks and left. I left the mall feeling bitter. Why did she just walk away? Was I being nervous again? Probably. Man, whatever. Today was a good learning day for me. These failures weren't failures at all, they made what I need to work on glaringly obvious. I apparently still need to work on inner-game and approaching. Oh, I also thought of a really good opener when I got a call from my buddy:CF: "Hey, I've got a question for you."
HB: "Ummm...ok."
CF: "My buddy went overseas a few months ago to fight in Iraq. Three months into Iraq, he gets a letter from his girlfriend, breaking up with him. She broke up with him becuase "I never get to see you and I'm just so lonely." My friend was devastated. Do you agree with what his ex-girlfriend did?"
Best part is that this actually happened (My friend is out of Iraq now, but this happened when he was there.)
I suppose that today wasn't a TOTAL failure, but still, I'm so upset with myself.
:cuss:
Bonafide
Senior Don Juan
coolf1r3 said:Choked my ass out? Geek? You, sir, have no idea how wrong you are. Roflmao. Choked a 3rd degree black-belt out? Good luck.:crackup:
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Everyone else, how about offering some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Again, please stop bashing me for it. I made a mistake. It's not like you guys are/were perfect, either.
Oops, looks like you just qualified yourself to me.
Back to the drawing board BOY. HAHA.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
alnite
Don Juan
You are doing just fine, bro! You are on the right track now. Keep the balls rolling.
You are still in high-school after all. Your pool of girls is still shallow and small. Once you have grown up a bit, the pool gets widen and deepen, and by this time you would be a natural.
You are still in high-school after all. Your pool of girls is still shallow and small. Once you have grown up a bit, the pool gets widen and deepen, and by this time you would be a natural.
coolf1r3
Don Juan
Today:
Came to school late, the girls I saw in the hallway, I smiled and said hello to. Both said hi back. I was vocal-ish today. I didn't speak ALL that much, but I'm content. I'm about to go to the gym after a light snack, work on my upper body. Man, change is tough.
Came to school late, the girls I saw in the hallway, I smiled and said hello to. Both said hi back. I was vocal-ish today. I didn't speak ALL that much, but I'm content. I'm about to go to the gym after a light snack, work on my upper body. Man, change is tough.
coolf1r3
Don Juan
Today:
Went to the gym, played some Gears 2, then went to a friend's house for the night. Can't wait to go to the club Thursday night!:rockon:
Went to the gym, played some Gears 2, then went to a friend's house for the night. Can't wait to go to the club Thursday night!:rockon:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
MisterMcGee
Master Don Juan
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why do we care?
CP3WOO
Don Juan
Good job. You just picked on the kid that already gets picked on everyday of his sad life. Don't be a tool. Do something that no one has the balls to do, be the kids friend. Girls would definately respect you for that.
Your enthusiasm is awesome dude, but you're doing it all wrong. Instead of updating us on what bullsh!t you're doing each day (like we care you played a video game), how about apologizing to that kid first? Life isn't about how many girls you can get, but you're still in High School so I'll let that slide. Hopefully you finally wake up someday and cease being the douche you (currently) are before you piss off the wrong person and they kick your face in.coolf1r3 said:
coolf1r3
Don Juan
I already did. Stop badgering me about it!Jon55 said:
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
betterthandead
Senior Don Juan
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you look the same
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.