"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Alright enough of all this "pick up line, approach" bs

Kev07

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Seriuosly, pick up lines are dumb, no matter how witty they are.

The BEST pick up line possible is something along " Hi, my name is...." and go from there.

The only type of first line you can say that could possibly beat that is if there is something situational you can comment on, but after you comment, you should probably follow through with "anyway my name is..." or something. be creative.

Pick up lines are bs.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I agree 100%. Pick up lines are cheesy. If anything, you should use situational openers. "Let me ask you something. How would you feel if, a guy you were dating did so and so, then blah blah blah"

I didn't ask her if I could ask her a question, then I went into a situation that she's can probably relate to. Pickup lines are stupid and should be avoided at all costs.
 

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In my humble opinion, there is absolutely nothing that we (guys on this forum) can't use to our advantage. Personally, I love pick up lines. Using the cheesiest ones possible (not to open a conversation, but a little later) is a great way to get a laugh or break the ice. From how I've used them, it just has to be clear that what you're saying is just that: a pick up line.
 

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The only pickup line that is proven to be successful is..."I like your shoes."
If you're talking and you're making her laugh already, then you can throw out some of the ruder ones, just to make her laugh more. I use them as jokes, and it works, never as an introductory line though.
 

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well i meant lines that you use to approach.


Also i guess Maestro found a fault in my post, overly cheesy pick up lines are pretty awesome, even though sometimes girls are too stupid to pick up that you're just being sarcastic
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Kev07 said:
Seriuosly, pick up lines are dumb, no matter how witty they are.

The BEST pick up line possible is something along " Hi, my name is...." and go from there.

The only type of first line you can say that could possibly beat that is if there is something situational you can comment on, but after you comment, you should probably follow through with "anyway my name is..." or something. be creative.

Pick up lines are bs.
The best pickup line is what is percieved NOT to be.

At a Superbowl party last weekend I was in another town. I knew no one and no one knew me; I was in for my cousin's birthday so I had a talk peice if all else failed, but I simply walked over and sat next to a reasonably attractive blonde and said

"so *eye contact* born n raised here?"

"yeah"

"thats awesome, I used to live here but now I'm in the city"

"which city?"

....

"you know my cousin (insert name)?"

"yeah hes a really cool guy we've been going to school together since like 8th grade"

"wow thats cool, this is your friend too?" *notioning towards the brunnette next to her (aka my target)*


All I'm getting to is that there should never be room for her to think anywhere outside of your "conversation sphere," if you will. It should be engaging, yet simple enough to allow her to run her eyes over you to size you up. During which time you should really have your A game up.

I ended up getting a lap dance from both the blonde and the brunette by the end of that party. Made out with the brunette, but had drank 3/4ths bottle of SKYY soon after so I blacked out and woke up with the blonde. :(

I really need to work on staying sober at parties...

oh and about 70% of situational openers that I've used have failed. I'm pretty ****ty at them and I come off like a perv.
 

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kdnash82 said:
If anything, you should use situational openers. "Let me ask you something. How would you feel if, a guy you were dating did so and so, then blah blah blah"
That is an opinion opener.
 

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Kev07 said:
Seriuosly, pick up lines are dumb, no matter how witty they are.

The BEST pick up line possible is something along " Hi, my name is...." and go from there.

The only type of first line you can say that could possibly beat that is if there is something situational you can comment on, but after you comment, you should probably follow through with "anyway my name is..." or something. be creative.

Pick up lines are bs.
So you're suggesting giving your name to the target before anything else? That's worse than "pick up" lines. You're not creating mystery by doing that, and she cant give you an ioi by asking for your name since you've already told her.
 
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