MatureDJ
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
alpha widow laments that she is not attracted to her "soulmate"
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
btownbuck2012
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Reads like it was written by a guy
Desdinova
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She is incorrect. It is guy #2 who is the "soulmate". Like I've said before, a woman becomes throwaway, damaged trash once she's been alpha-widowed. This is also how I see High Score Theory working. The guy at the top trumps everyone else on the list. The new guys at the bottom simply fall off. The only hope she has is to date someone she previously had a crush on, but a lot of that is made up of celebrities and high school crushes.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
zekko
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I know you're talking about alpha widows and High Score Theory.
But I don't care if you're a man or a woman, NO ONE is your "soulmate" if they don't desire you back. At least this woman is smart enough to realize her position. Of course, that doesn't mean guy #1 is her "soulmate" either. Besides, we don't believe in that here anyway.
It's like if a guy wants a woman who will never give her the time of day. I don't care how hot she is, or how much he likes her, if she doesn't return his affection or interest, she's not worth his time.
mrgoodstuff
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If you continue to place a priority or go around someone who doesn't value you, that means YOU don't value you.
Wrong, for the vast majority of women this is normal.
mrgoodstuff
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He's saying they wont talk like that.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
They do just not to him...
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I’ve never seen a woman use the term ‘low value/high value’. That’s a phrase something this forum would use. Along with the ‘options’ focus. There’s a lot of direct focus on how first guy had none, while second guy had other women wanting to cheat on their bfs and husbands with him. These would be things qualified by guys as valuable. Not as women. She would say he’s ‘mysterious’ or ‘sexy’ or ‘adventurous’, or something more emotional. Not ‘wow this guy gets laid a lot! He’s my soulmate’.
Smells like bull**** imo.
Smells like bull**** imo.
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The scenario described is plausible. And women certainly judge guys by “value.”
But they generally don’t use the terms “high value guy” and “low value guy.” That’s seduction community guy lingo. That’s why I suspect it was written by a guy.
“I dumped my beta bux AFC husband and hooked up with a Chad. His game and social calibration subcommunicated high value and alpha male traits. What attracted me most was his frame and ability to hook sets quickly. I knew after he first negged me that I was gonna go home with him and give him a full close. I don’t have time to write a field report right now.”
~signed, a chick
But they generally don’t use the terms “high value guy” and “low value guy.” That’s seduction community guy lingo. That’s why I suspect it was written by a guy.
“I dumped my beta bux AFC husband and hooked up with a Chad. His game and social calibration subcommunicated high value and alpha male traits. What attracted me most was his frame and ability to hook sets quickly. I knew after he first negged me that I was gonna go home with him and give him a full close. I don’t have time to write a field report right now.”
~signed, a chick
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mrgoodstuff
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Everyone "hi sides" and inflates their value. Folks in college fight over "status" and their NOBODY. Yeah if someone thinks that, let them go.
mrgoodstuff
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I know a single mother who thinks she deserved a successful entertaining. A regular 40k job. Really bad attitude. But if the guy she's messing with is not a entertainer he'll be treated like dirt. So should you really care?
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.