MatureDJ
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"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
alpha widow laments that she is not attracted to her "soulmate"
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
btownbuck2012
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Reads like it was written by a guy
Desdinova
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She is incorrect. It is guy #2 who is the "soulmate". Like I've said before, a woman becomes throwaway, damaged trash once she's been alpha-widowed. This is also how I see High Score Theory working. The guy at the top trumps everyone else on the list. The new guys at the bottom simply fall off. The only hope she has is to date someone she previously had a crush on, but a lot of that is made up of celebrities and high school crushes.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
zekko
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I know you're talking about alpha widows and High Score Theory.
But I don't care if you're a man or a woman, NO ONE is your "soulmate" if they don't desire you back. At least this woman is smart enough to realize her position. Of course, that doesn't mean guy #1 is her "soulmate" either. Besides, we don't believe in that here anyway.
It's like if a guy wants a woman who will never give her the time of day. I don't care how hot she is, or how much he likes her, if she doesn't return his affection or interest, she's not worth his time.
mrgoodstuff
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If you continue to place a priority or go around someone who doesn't value you, that means YOU don't value you.
Wrong, for the vast majority of women this is normal.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
He's saying they wont talk like that.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
They do just not to him...
RedScorpion
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I’ve never seen a woman use the term ‘low value/high value’. That’s a phrase something this forum would use. Along with the ‘options’ focus. There’s a lot of direct focus on how first guy had none, while second guy had other women wanting to cheat on their bfs and husbands with him. These would be things qualified by guys as valuable. Not as women. She would say he’s ‘mysterious’ or ‘sexy’ or ‘adventurous’, or something more emotional. Not ‘wow this guy gets laid a lot! He’s my soulmate’.
Smells like bull**** imo.
Smells like bull**** imo.
Mike32ct
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The scenario described is plausible. And women certainly judge guys by “value.”
But they generally don’t use the terms “high value guy” and “low value guy.” That’s seduction community guy lingo. That’s why I suspect it was written by a guy.
“I dumped my beta bux AFC husband and hooked up with a Chad. His game and social calibration subcommunicated high value and alpha male traits. What attracted me most was his frame and ability to hook sets quickly. I knew after he first negged me that I was gonna go home with him and give him a full close. I don’t have time to write a field report right now.”
~signed, a chick
But they generally don’t use the terms “high value guy” and “low value guy.” That’s seduction community guy lingo. That’s why I suspect it was written by a guy.
“I dumped my beta bux AFC husband and hooked up with a Chad. His game and social calibration subcommunicated high value and alpha male traits. What attracted me most was his frame and ability to hook sets quickly. I knew after he first negged me that I was gonna go home with him and give him a full close. I don’t have time to write a field report right now.”
~signed, a chick
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mrgoodstuff
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Everyone "hi sides" and inflates their value. Folks in college fight over "status" and their NOBODY. Yeah if someone thinks that, let them go.
mrgoodstuff
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I know a single mother who thinks she deserved a successful entertaining. A regular 40k job. Really bad attitude. But if the guy she's messing with is not a entertainer he'll be treated like dirt. So should you really care?
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.