Almost zero interest in women

[FlexpertHamilton]

I am not depressed and last time I checked my T levels were good (may need to revisit that though). I take care of myself fairly well: I keep my stress levels down, get lots of sleep, and have a solid diet/meal plan that works quite well for me. I take a fair bit of supplements as well, including vitamin D, zinc, magnesium, ashwagandha, inositol, and many others. I have completely lost interest in porn and have barely looked at it or fapped in months (which is obviously a good thing). While I do normally get morning wood, it's not always particularly strong, and I rarely have any sexual dreams.

I find myself only interested in women and sex maybe 5 days out of the month at most. And when I do, it's usually only a few hours. I actually haven't had sex in a shockingly long time, so long I don't even want to admit it. And despite getting phone numbers and meeting cute and seemingly normal girls I literally never give enough of a **** to pursue anything with them, whether it's sex or a relationship.

I do have an interest in socializing; I still like to hang out with friends and I do want to meet more people. So again this isn't a depression/social reclusiveness issue. The idea of a long-term girlfriend does sound nice, but in a naive and almost idyllic sense; the issue however is that it's very unlikely i'd be willing to put forth the sacrifices needed to keep her around (for instance I straight up refuse to sleep in the same bed with a girl overnight)

I'm not even trying to be MGTOW and I don't actually have any specific problems with women or any bitterness towards them, but I just flat out don't give a **** about them anymore. Does this sound like an actual issue or is it perhaps just a phase? I've felt like this for almost 2 years no and it shows no sign of changing.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Check your Progesterone levels in relation to your Estradiol...

Also check Estradiol and DHEA-S levels

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Check your Progesterone levels in relation to your Estradiol...

Also check Estradiol and DHEA-S levels

But even your hormones were out of whack, wouldn't you still have some kind of interest in relationships and intimacy in general?

There have been some points life where I was quite miserable and unhealthy and probably had seriously low T but I still very much wanted a GF.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

But even your hormones were out of whack, wouldn't you still have some kind of interest in relationships and intimacy in general?

There have been some points life where I was quite miserable and unhealthy and probably had seriously low T but I still very much wanted a GF.

Hormones control you to levels you'd be shocked. Your life and the decisions you make is in large part controlled by your hormones.

 

[Alvafe]

I dubt its a health issue, he ius just tired to deal with boring people, and if she is not putting it out there is no reason to waste time, if more guys was like that things would be so much better for everyone

 

[derby1]

I felt like this when i swallowed too many red pills

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I dubt its a health issue, he ius just tired to deal with boring people, and if she is not putting it out there is no reason to waste time, if more guys was like that things would be so much better for everyone

It's not even an issue of getting sex or not; when I do get it I usually find it unsatisfying or a waste of effort with no real payoff. The issue is actually finding a girl that I actually like being around, so maybe I'm simply not meeting enough high quality women.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I am not depressed and last time I checked my T levels were good (may need to revisit that though). I take care of myself fairly well: I keep my stress levels down, get lots of sleep, and have a solid diet/meal plan that works quite well for me. I take a fair bit of supplements as well, including vitamin D, zinc, magnesium, ashwagandha, inositol, and many others. I have completely lost interest in porn and have barely looked at it or fapped in months (which is obviously a good thing). While I do normally get morning wood, it's not always particularly strong, and I rarely have any sexual dreams.

I find myself only interested in women and sex maybe 5 days out of the month at most. And when I do, it's usually only a few hours. I actually haven't had sex in a shockingly long time, so long I don't even want to admit it. And despite getting phone numbers and meeting cute and seemingly normal girls I literally never give enough of a **** to pursue anything with them, whether it's sex or a relationship.

I do have an interest in socializing; I still like to hang out with friends and I do want to meet more people. So again this isn't a depression/social reclusiveness issue. The idea of a long-term girlfriend does sound nice, but in a naive and almost idyllic sense; the issue however is that it's very unlikely i'd be willing to put forth the sacrifices needed to keep her around (for instance I straight up refuse to sleep in the same bed with a girl overnight)

I'm not even trying to be MGTOW and I don't actually have any specific problems with women or any bitterness towards them, but I just flat out don't give a **** about them anymore. Does this sound like an actual issue or is it perhaps just a phase? I've felt like this for almost 2 years no and it shows no sign of changing.

Maybe conditioned due to the environment

 

[JayAce]

I felt like this when i swallowed too many red pills

yep. it’s the blessing and curse of getting to that red pill stage

 

[Black Widow Void]

Seems to me as if you have a good understanding of the "cost / benefit analogy."

When we are able to over-ride our pointer and apply actual logic, the reality is ... most women aren't worth the time, energy and investment...and of course, the aftermath.

Most men do not want to accept such realities, because going against certain 'rituals' would make them feel different from their peers.

Your viewpoint strikes me as more normal than many group-think opinions expressed here.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Seems to me as if you have a good understanding of the "cost / benefit analogy."

When we are able to over-ride our pointer and apply actual logic, the reality is ... most women aren't worth the time, energy and investment...and of course, the aftermath.

Most men do not want to accept such realities, because going against certain 'rituals' would make them feel different from their peers.

Your viewpoint strikes me as more normal than many group-think opinions expressed here.

And the alternative is what? Things change and people need to adapt to it and realize that sometimes things that worked 10 years ago or 5 years ago aren't going to work as well now. That's life. Those who can adapt will thrive and those who cannot won't. That goes for everything in life, not just women and relationships.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

And the alternative is what? Things change and people need to adapt to it and realize that sometimes things that worked 10 years ago or 5 years ago aren't going to work as well now. That's life. Those who can adapt will thrive and those who cannot won't. That goes for everything in life, not just women and relationships.

I mean but what's "working" these days? To many men the juice is not worth the squeeze.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I mean but what's "working" these days? To many men the juice is not worth the squeeze.

I don't think the squeeze is that hard right now honestly. I have 3 plates that are all fighting for my time and attention and jump at the chance to hang out and have sex pretty much everytime. Bring dinner over, bring alcohol, give me massages...

I mean I don't understand what guys issues are and what they are having to squeeze so hard for??

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Everyone is different. Personally, I’d be alarmed if I was in your situation. But our backgrounds and life histories are probably wildly dissimilar . So...

 

[Black Widow Void]

And the alternative is what? Things change and people need to adapt to it and realize that sometimes things that worked 10 years ago or 5 years ago aren't going to work as well now. That's life. Those who can adapt will thrive and those who cannot won't. That goes for everything in life, not just women and relationships.

I expected some members to miss the point. From your previous postings, I'm not surprised to see you chime in.
Once again, I'm calling you out for projecting some image; which I'm certain that you are far from.

Things change and people need to adapt to it and realize that sometimes things that worked 10 years ago or 5 years ago aren't going to work as well now.

If someone is a follower and a conformist, I suppose that your train of thought would seem acceptable.
Some of us put a higher price on our dignity and self-worth - rather than compromising our core-being for some random snatch.

While you seem to enjoy projecting some sort of 'maverick' type image on here, you continue to fumble and reveal your true nature.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't think the squeeze is that hard right now honestly. I have 3 plates that are all fighting for my time and attention and jump at the chance to hang out and have sex pretty much everytime. Bring dinner over, bring alcohol, give me massages...

I mean I don't understand what guys issues are and what they are having to squeeze so hard for??

Its hard when guys get "stuck" on stupid, staying in bad positions, chasing women and trying to force things.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I expected some members to miss the point. From your previous postings, I'm not surprised to see you chime in.
Once again, I'm calling you out for projecting some image; which I'm certain that you are far from.



If someone is a follower and a conformist, I suppose that your train of thought would seem acceptable.
Some of us put a higher price on our dignity and self-worth - rather than compromising our core-being for some random snatch.

While you seem to enjoy projecting some sort of 'maverick' type image on here, you continue to fumble and reveal your true nature.

Nothing to do with being a maverick it has to do with identifying patterns and adapting to them. Some people are good at it and some struggle with it. Some people see the pattern shift but are slow or unwilling to adapt to it. I both see the pattern shift quickly and am willing to adapt to it. That has many practical implications, especially in business and careers. That doesn't make you a follower, it's actually the exact opposite. It makes you the trailblazer who starts the trend that others actually follow.

If you think recognizing changes and adapting to them is something bad ask the swiss watch makers how that worked for them when they refused to do so.

Oh yeah...nevermind you can't because they are all out of business.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Its hard when guys get "stuck" on stupid, staying in bad positions, chasing women and trying to force things.

It all comes down to how comfortable a person allows themselves to get once they get a woman and start dating her. So many guys willingly stop keeping their pipeline filled and drop all other women to focus on one.

Then they become fixated at making that one relationship work because they have invested all that time and energy into just that one woman and don't want it to be wasted. Except when you put yourself into those positions that is when you start making bad decisions...coming from a position of weakness rather than strength.

 

[Black Widow Void]

Well stated, BackInTheGame78

Should a forum member decide to sell out his core, for the 'gain' of a woman's approval, we know who to consult.

 

[flowtheory]

I am not depressed and last time I checked my T levels were good (may need to revisit that though). I take care of myself fairly well: I keep my stress levels down, get lots of sleep, and have a solid diet/meal plan that works quite well for me. I take a fair bit of supplements as well, including vitamin D, zinc, magnesium, ashwagandha, inositol, and many others. I have completely lost interest in porn and have barely looked at it or fapped in months (which is obviously a good thing). While I do normally get morning wood, it's not always particularly strong, and I rarely have any sexual dreams.

I find myself only interested in women and sex maybe 5 days out of the month at most. And when I do, it's usually only a few hours. I actually haven't had sex in a shockingly long time, so long I don't even want to admit it. And despite getting phone numbers and meeting cute and seemingly normal girls I literally never give enough of a **** to pursue anything with them, whether it's sex or a relationship.

I do have an interest in socializing; I still like to hang out with friends and I do want to meet more people. So again this isn't a depression/social reclusiveness issue. The idea of a long-term girlfriend does sound nice, but in a naive and almost idyllic sense; the issue however is that it's very unlikely i'd be willing to put forth the sacrifices needed to keep her around (for instance I straight up refuse to sleep in the same bed with a girl overnight)

I'm not even trying to be MGTOW and I don't actually have any specific problems with women or any bitterness towards them, but I just flat out don't give a **** about them anymore. Does this sound like an actual issue or is it perhaps just a phase? I've felt like this for almost 2 years no and it shows no sign of changing.

Has your life gotten better, worse, or generally felt the same since having no interest in women and playing the dating game?

What do you think the problem is, if you were responding to your thread and knew as much as you know?

What caused the downturn of interest? A breakup?