"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Allen's Article. Shoulder pointing?

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Regarding the "does she like me?" article on the DJC...

Shoulder-pointing? Everyone notices different stuff, but this is a new one on me. Does anyone else think this is an IOI? Not saying it isn't, if it works for Allen good for him, I just never noticed it myself.

On the other hand, a lot of guys hear about things on these boards that COULD be IOI's in a particular situation but then they end up looking too hard for those things so much so that they read the interaction wrong and talk themselves into something that isn't necessarily there.

Jeez, now I am going to be fixated on where women's shoulders are pointing for the next week! Thanks, Allen. LOL!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I don't think it necessarily means interest as it does respect. It's natural to know that we point our shoulders at either what is getting our attention or what we are interested in.

I think the thrusting of the chest out and stretching when sitting having and having open view of a woman's chest are big indicators of comfort and attraction. She isn't going to unconsciously stick her chest out (exposing them) to a guy she isn't attracted to because it's a minor viloation.

Come to think of it, there is this girl at the gym that does the splits around me - i swear she knows that i'll be looking (and more importantly she wants me to notice). Just get that vibe .. i don't know. These girlz i tell ya ..
 

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SexPDX,

Since you and I both have long experience in hanging out in bars and nightclubs, and for that matter any other places where people socialize, it should not come as any surprise. I notice it all the time (that is, when I pay attention). When two people are sitting at a table of four in a restaurant, for example, friends face each other to imply distance and (potential) lovers sit adjacent to imply intimacy. But when two people are standing, such as in a nightclub, it’s usually the opposite; (potential) lovers face each other and friends stand next to each other (or at least at significantly different angles).

Recently, I ended a trial dating period with a woman. In my truck, she always sat facing me. Standing out in public, she always faced me. While walking, she would often turn towards me. (I, the one who was ultimately not interested, instinctively did all the opposite.)

It’s really nothing new. “Shoulder pointing” is just another way of saying “mirroring.” ;)

But, you said it best when...
SexPDX:
Jeez, now I am going to be fixated on where women's shoulders are pointing for the next week! Thanks, Allen. LOL!
:D
 

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lemme get this strait, when yall say "shoulder pointing" you mean "the direction a person is facing" im confused...what does shoulder pointing mean?
 

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Originally posted by tmpgstx
I don't think it necessarily means interest as it does respect. It's natural to know that we point our shoulders at either what is getting our attention or what we are interested in.
Accurate interpretation and very perceptive tmpgstx.

That article is still missing one feature to look for when it comes to body alignment and it's a simple one that I can't believe hasn't been mentioned yet.

-The feet

1-Head
2-Body (trunk)
3-Feet

These are the three indicators of direction when it comes to communicating between two people and are clues to all but the most oblivious observer of whether the two parties are interested in continuing dialogue with each other or not.

As a little side note, I was studying body language when it comes to how people are seated when sitting at a table. (This was in reference to an Irish bar I had gone to with some friends a few weeks ago) and there was another guy who had an "issue" with my viewpoints on a nonrelated subject.

Well, it just so happened that after reviewing the chart, (on body language when seated at a rectangular table) he was seated in section "A" and I was seated in section "B3" ~ the natural competitive position!

When we took our seats after having been outside, we came back inside and sat down and unbeknownst to me, we were sitting in natural competitive positions. This stuff is more than subconscious when you really analyze it.

He "claimed" dominance overtly, but his body language became closed when we all went outside, and the Irish girl that he was gaming started to mirror my position and looked in the same direction as I as time went on.

Claiming dominance, and showing dominance are two different principles entirely and that exercise proved it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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