"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Allen's Article. Shoulder pointing?

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Regarding the "does she like me?" article on the DJC...

Shoulder-pointing? Everyone notices different stuff, but this is a new one on me. Does anyone else think this is an IOI? Not saying it isn't, if it works for Allen good for him, I just never noticed it myself.

On the other hand, a lot of guys hear about things on these boards that COULD be IOI's in a particular situation but then they end up looking too hard for those things so much so that they read the interaction wrong and talk themselves into something that isn't necessarily there.

Jeez, now I am going to be fixated on where women's shoulders are pointing for the next week! Thanks, Allen. LOL!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I don't think it necessarily means interest as it does respect. It's natural to know that we point our shoulders at either what is getting our attention or what we are interested in.

I think the thrusting of the chest out and stretching when sitting having and having open view of a woman's chest are big indicators of comfort and attraction. She isn't going to unconsciously stick her chest out (exposing them) to a guy she isn't attracted to because it's a minor viloation.

Come to think of it, there is this girl at the gym that does the splits around me - i swear she knows that i'll be looking (and more importantly she wants me to notice). Just get that vibe .. i don't know. These girlz i tell ya ..
 

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SexPDX,

Since you and I both have long experience in hanging out in bars and nightclubs, and for that matter any other places where people socialize, it should not come as any surprise. I notice it all the time (that is, when I pay attention). When two people are sitting at a table of four in a restaurant, for example, friends face each other to imply distance and (potential) lovers sit adjacent to imply intimacy. But when two people are standing, such as in a nightclub, it’s usually the opposite; (potential) lovers face each other and friends stand next to each other (or at least at significantly different angles).

Recently, I ended a trial dating period with a woman. In my truck, she always sat facing me. Standing out in public, she always faced me. While walking, she would often turn towards me. (I, the one who was ultimately not interested, instinctively did all the opposite.)

It’s really nothing new. “Shoulder pointing” is just another way of saying “mirroring.” ;)

But, you said it best when...
SexPDX:
Jeez, now I am going to be fixated on where women's shoulders are pointing for the next week! Thanks, Allen. LOL!
:D
 

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lemme get this strait, when yall say "shoulder pointing" you mean "the direction a person is facing" im confused...what does shoulder pointing mean?
 

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Originally posted by tmpgstx
I don't think it necessarily means interest as it does respect. It's natural to know that we point our shoulders at either what is getting our attention or what we are interested in.
Accurate interpretation and very perceptive tmpgstx.

That article is still missing one feature to look for when it comes to body alignment and it's a simple one that I can't believe hasn't been mentioned yet.

-The feet

1-Head
2-Body (trunk)
3-Feet

These are the three indicators of direction when it comes to communicating between two people and are clues to all but the most oblivious observer of whether the two parties are interested in continuing dialogue with each other or not.

As a little side note, I was studying body language when it comes to how people are seated when sitting at a table. (This was in reference to an Irish bar I had gone to with some friends a few weeks ago) and there was another guy who had an "issue" with my viewpoints on a nonrelated subject.

Well, it just so happened that after reviewing the chart, (on body language when seated at a rectangular table) he was seated in section "A" and I was seated in section "B3" ~ the natural competitive position!

When we took our seats after having been outside, we came back inside and sat down and unbeknownst to me, we were sitting in natural competitive positions. This stuff is more than subconscious when you really analyze it.

He "claimed" dominance overtly, but his body language became closed when we all went outside, and the Irish girl that he was gaming started to mirror my position and looked in the same direction as I as time went on.

Claiming dominance, and showing dominance are two different principles entirely and that exercise proved it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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