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Allen, TX Outlet Mall Shooting: Was the Shooter an Incel?

Pierce.Manhammer

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So basically more surveillance of men and "red flag" policies weaponized at anyone who doesn't agree with MSM narratives?
C’mon man you’re smarter than that.

I am a staunch 2nd amendment proponent and, I own enough small arms to outfit a scout platoon, but mental health is a problem, and not just among men. Just stop and think for a minute.
 

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This was an illegal from central or south america. No health programs would have stopped this. Sometimes you gotta call it how it is.
Link please that shows his illegal residency.

Only thing I can find is: “Oropesa's current immigration status is unclear, and it is not known how long he had been in the US since he was last deported.”

If you have a more updated link please post it.
 

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This was an illegal from central or south america. No health programs would have stopped this. Sometimes you gotta call it how it is.
You’re confusing the Allen shooter with another previously four time deported caught shooter we also have named Oropeza. The now deceased Allen guy (Garcia) enlisted in the US Army in 2008. He was kicked out before finishing basic on what was most likely a mentally unfit discharge …
If someone had been looking, including his parents, he had been on the mental illness radar for a number of years.
 

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investigators have found social media accounts connected to the shooter that reveal hundreds of postings and images, including writings with racially or ethnically motivated violent extremist rhetoric, neo-Nazi material and material espousing the supremacy of the white race.
Pretty ironic considering the shooter himself was a non-white Hispanic. If he wanted to help the white race so much, he could have simply shot himself.
 

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I think it's a safe bet that 75% of mass shootings wouldn't have happened if the perpetrator had gotten laid recently. No evidence to support this claim but we know it's probably true.

That's why online resources like this site (sometimes) can actually have a positive effect on society.
 

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I think it's a safe bet that 75% of mass shootings wouldn't have happened if the perpetrator had gotten laid recently. No evidence to support this claim but we know it's probably true.
This is almost certainly true (although I’d put that number at 90-95%). The same applies to terrorist attacks by Islamic radicals.

Our ancestors knew that having a society with a large number of incels was a very bad idea. So they invented monagamy and encouraged early marriage, so that virtually everyone was guaranteed a wife. I mean mass shootings were virtually unknown prior to the 1990’s even though guns were just as commonplace if not more so. What changed? The dating culture.
 

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I mean mass shootings were virtually unknown prior to the 1990’s even though guns were just as commonplace if not more so. What changed? The dating culture.
What also changed was video gaming technology where incels could work off their social anger and anxieties by shooting up bad guys in more realistic games …
If the game made them feel good, real life had to be better …
 

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What also changed was video gaming technology where incels could work off their social anger and anxieties by shooting up bad guys in more realistic games …
If the game made them feel good, real life had to be better …
I don't buy this. I've never heard of anyone committing a mass shooting just because they wanted to "play" a more realistic "game" in real life.
 

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I don't buy this. I've never heard of anyone committing a mass shooting just because they wanted to "play" a more realistic "game" in real life.
Im no expert in mental health but as a Video Game connoisseur I dont buy it either. Most countries have access to video games but these type of shootings seem more prevalent in the U.S. dont they? (Please let me know if Im mistaken). Mexico has shootings as well but its more cartel vs government or cartel vs another cartel.
 

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This was an illegal from central or south america. No health programs would have stopped this. Sometimes you gotta call it how it is.
What should the U.S. do about illegal immigration?
 

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Let's let the experts on the topic ponder this:
 

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This will prove unpopular here most likely, but a robust public health system that includes psychological services would greatly diminish the number of mass shooters in the US.

By implementing robust public mental health programs that focus on early identification, intervention, and support, communities can help identify potential psychopaths and reduce the number of mass shootings. It is important to note that not all individuals with psychopathy or other mental health conditions will engage in violent acts; however, providing comprehensive support and services can help mitigate risk factors and create safer communities for everyone.

Killing a human being is not an easy thing to do from a mental standpoint. It goes against human nature at its core. You have got to be seriously messed up to go through with a killing, if not threatened yourself. In war or self defense different things are at work.

It is written about in medieval works such as “The Song of Roland," a medieval epic poem based on the Battle of Roncevaux Pass in 778. In this poem, there are descriptions of the emotional and physical distress experienced by the soldiers after the battle. There are many other writings that show the stresses warriors go through.

People that are capable of murder like these mass shooters have severe issues, they’re literally sociopaths as well.
This was basically the underlying theme of the incredible movie "Joker".
 

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All of the mass shootings are horrible, but this one hits home. I have been to this same place many times. I used to drive by there every day. Lived minutes away for 20yrs. That stuff isn't supposed to happen in your own backyard. WTF is wrong with people? Total lack of concern for human life.
It seems to happen on an almost daily rate these days. Gun control and legal prostitution would go a long way ...
 

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What should the U.S. do about illegal immigration?
Throw folks who are the agents in hiring illegals in jail. Make it a question of saving a few bucks on labor vs. JAIL. I just have to think that 99.9% of such folks would give up the few bucks.
 

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Here are some pics posted at the Incel website. It seems that the perp liked to go to porn conventions, and in general taking photos with women in sexualized roles (e.g., Hooter's waitress). I'd classify him as an ethnic incel-murderer like you-know-who.

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Here's a Black Pill comment about him from the same thread that pretty much sums it up:
I just a saw a post that was deleted that called this guy a volcel you have to either blind, ignorant or retarded if you thought this 3/10 literal monkey looking beaner was getting some ***** let alone a girlfriend.

All his pictures with women on his profile pic are with lewd waitresses that rely on his tips, a pornstar that did a pose and the rest of the girls are metalhead chicks that he was into that definitely friendzoned him.

In most pictures you can tell the body language that the girls he wasn’t paying wanted nothing to do with him more than a friend, their body language was saying they wanted to get as far away as possible from him.
I will add that the porn star is doing a good job of looking interested; such gals are good at that.
 

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The incel hypothesis is looking more realistic due to the research work of @MatureDJ

It seems like he was also part of an incel forum....

 
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