Allen Thomasons article smiling at women

[Thechamp]

Did any one read this he says if you smile all the time at women not a fake smile just be happy they want to be around you , and it’s like a magic wond any one tested this out yet ?

 

[Medina]

Depends what kind of guy you are

If you are above 6 foot you dont have to do shizz but if youre a smaller guy I think you need to give the impression you are happy within yourself. Ive thought about this a lot. When I play the angry bad boy I just come across as an demented midget - im only 5"6

 

[zekko]

I remember reading that article, and it made perfect sense. Of course, we're aware attraction doesn't always make sense when it comes to women.

There was that study awhile back that said that women found men who smile less attractive than even guys who appeared shameful. There was a lot of discussion here about it. I don't think you can conclude much from it though, because the method was showing pictures to women and letting them rate them. Actually being smiled at in real life would probably carry an emotional context to it that isn't there with the pictures.

It's odd though, because men rated the pictures with women smiling most attractive, which is just what you would expect. Apparently there is something about men smiling that can suggest weakness. But I think a lot depends on who the man is, and his manner when smiling.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...y-finds-smiling-men-are-less-attractive-women

 

[Medina]

Interesting stuff. I also think its cultural. Smiling in Russia is considered beta/weak but in America and capitalist countries its seen as a sign of success

 

[Thechamp]

I guess we will be all field testing this !!

 

[PeasantPlayer]

I remember reading that article, and it made perfect sense. Of course, we're aware attraction doesn't always make sense when it comes to women.

There was that study awhile back that said that women found men who smile less attractive than even guys who appeared shameful. There was a lot of discussion here about it. I don't think you can conclude much from it though, because the method was showing pictures to women and letting them rate them. Actually being smiled at in real life would probably carry an emotional context to it that isn't there with the pictures.

It's odd though, because men rated the pictures with women smiling most attractive, which is just what you would expect. Apparently there is something about men smiling that can suggest weakness. But I think a lot depends on who the man is, and his manner when smiling.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...y-finds-smiling-men-are-less-attractive-women

Lots of these studies are poor in design and the results are misinterpreted by journalists and the laymen doesn't know how to properly read data

 

[zekko]

Lots of these studies are poor in design and the results are misinterpreted by journalists and the laymen doesn't know how to properly read data

In the picture they used of the guy smiling, the guy looked like a goof.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

In the picture they used of the guy smiling, the guy looked like a goof.

IRL smiling conveys confidence and the energy feels good. Compare it to a stiff lip stoic face.

 

[lamath]

When i smile and make eye contact with women ive notice overall very good result.

 

[Billtx49]

IMO, the concept behind a man smile is to convey the impression of a man who is aware and comfortable in his surroundings, bold, confident, and enjoying life…

 

[zekko]

It's interesting though, that the study concluded that men found the women smiling as most attractive. A woman smiling shows that she is eager to please, which goes along with a subserviant nature, and we find that appealing.

Almost all of this DJ/seduction material is based around NOT being too eager to please. That's probably where the disconnect is. For a smiling guy to be attractive, it depends on WHY he is smiling. He needs to be smiling because he's fun, happy, friendly, relaxed, and confident. Whereas with women, it doesn't matter why she's smiling, it's attractive.

I've always thought that the women's faces and jaws are constructed, they seem to naturally show more teeth when they smile.

 

[corrector]

Smiling most if the time is a weak please be my friend type of vibe. It is grasping at straws. A genuine smile is too difficult to pull off if you are starving for a girl.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Smiling most if the time is a weak please be my friend type of vibe. It is grasping at straws. A genuine smile is too difficult to pull off if you are starving for a girl.

What if your life makes you happy?

 

[Thechamp]

Here is the article it’s worth a shot I have been trying it , I always smile but using eye contact now I do it more when interacting with women , they seem to want to be around me more see me at work etc I work in retail , like clothes they come in more than the used to nowhere what happens .https://www.sosuave.com/articles/at/magic.htm

 

[corrector]

What if your life makes you happy?

That does not mean it is expressed in smiling at random strangers unless you want to be an easy mark target.

 

[lamath]

That does not mean it is expressed in smiling at random strangers unless you want to be an easy mark target.

Very situation dependant.
Obv always smiling make you like someone who wants to please everyone.

Smiling in a confident way with eye contact while talking to a women is a good way to create interest imo

 

[zekko]

I do it more when interacting with women , they seem to want to be around me more see me at work etc I work in retail , like clothes they come in more than the used to nowhere what happens

That is a position where you are serving the public though, just pointing out. Women tend to excel in these positions, because they are natural nurturers and we like it when they are subserviant to us.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

That does not mean it is expressed in smiling at random strangers unless you want to be an easy mark target.

You might be confident in your awareness ans ability to defend yourself.

 

[zekko]

This reminds me of a story. I knew someone who had a mentally disabled brother in the family, and he would have violent outbursts and a tendency to hit people (but he was basically harmless).

I knew this and I used to always kind of glare at him when he was around. Because of this, I think he was kind of afraid of me, and he never hit me, and always kept his distance. I was one of the only people he had never hit.

One day he looked a little down in the dumps and I felt kind of sorry for him, so I smiled at him. Sure enough, he popped me. Obviously he took the smiling as a sign of weakness (even though that was not my intent).

 

[corrector]

George Clooney is always smiling. Isn't it the Sosuave credo to do what he does?

George Clooney is a famous actor who is also considered to be sexy so his SMV is through the roof. If I had the same SMV as George Clooney, then a smile could add or complement the already established charm. You may as well say be a world famous actor and have lots of money and fame to do what George Clooney does. Yeah, most celebrities aren't crying incel.

Smiling can enhance or make you more approachable if your SMV is already high to begin with. If you have a low SMV, no SMV, or too DLV, then a smile will just look weak, or that used car salesperson smile.

My own experience, in many non-verbal encounters with women, a smile makes them look away from me very fast. It almost feels like an instant non-verbal rejection. I don't like feeling allot of non-verbal rejections in public when I'm going through my day to day routine. I don't need to be reminded that I'm a non-Chad or ethnicel or whatever, so I'm probably going to smile less or not at all at most women unless I'm in a mode that I want to increase my emotional exposure out there at large in that type of way. I have no need to want to smile at men. The only girls that may smile back tend to be too young or in High School and I'm not after jail-bait.