"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
All you seniors dating Freshmen!
- Thread starter PeterNorthisawesome
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Dimebag_Darrell
Banned
Why? Because you say it?
How normal would it be if a 24-yr-old guy dated a 20-yr-old girl?
Where I live, high schools have 5 grades: when I was in 10th grade, there was a 13th grader that was dating a 9th grader. Guess what? He was already the biggest don juan in school and this didn't negatively affect his reputation. Actually, he became even more popular, because other freshmen would look up to him for getting that nice hottie. He could have had the most beautiful seniors and juniors, but he was into her. Do you really think that it's Don Juanish not to hook up with someone just because other people think it's wrong? Read the Bible, again, then.
We're not talking about pre-pubescent girls. We're talking about post-pubescent girls.
Post a pic of your "quality girls" then.
Consider that I've never banged a girl who was more than a year younger than me, so I'm not trying to justify myself, as some of you would otherwise think. But I can't judje people that bang younger girls, because it could happen to me sometimes, since I don't find anything wrong with it.
Adone
Dimebag_Darrell
Banned
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Dimebag_Darrell
Banned
Viper
Banned
pr0teus
Don Juan
Bah...I need to study instead or I won't get anywhere decent and I'll be stuck studying somewhere mediocre, dating mediocre girls...
Viper
Banned
Hey, dude, as long as you're just not studying as an excuse to not date her and you honestly need to study.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
SlyD4rK
Don Juan
Amen.
As for Senior/Freshman dating...IMO no it's wrong...but then again...what's with 40yr old men hooking up with 20-30 yr old women?!? (Go dad! :crackup: )
PeterNorthisawesome
Banned
Goodjob you just proved that your AFC to the max, your probably the loser who exploits the unexperianced and brags about ur accomplishments. If the guy is the biggest DJ then he woud be dating a college hot model or something rather than a 15 year old who can't do anything cause IT'S ILLEGAL? that makes no sense that is not DJ at all. All I'm saying is have some dignitiy and standards when your getting a girl-friend. Anything over 18 is fair game since they are "LEGAL" officially, I just think that people should go for the challege first rather than taking the easy road. Oh yea and to answer your first quetion YEA IM RIGHT because I SAID SO so STFU and go back to your pre-pubescent girls.
"the second you go over 18 everything is fair game"........Oh, is that so? By who's standards? yours? Age is age (apples and apples). So, basically what you're sayin is: a 19 year old can't date a 13 year old because she isn't 18 yet....but then lets say, the same 13 and 19 year old have been dating for 6 years; Now she is 18 and he is 25....The way you stated it.....now it becomes morally "civil"? Think about it what you just said.
Edit: By the way...it's a hypothetical situation...I'm in college.
Even if I was in highschool...in the position to date a freshman, who are you to tell me that my "game" is sad because of that overly opinionated reason? please, don't make me laugh.
So, in order for you to consider dating a woman...they need to know how to s*uck a d!ck?
Lose that judgemental nature, man.
Usually Seniors are 17 turning 18 (still illegal age) and freshmans are 13 (illegal age). Did you know that in some states, it's legal for 16 year olds to have sex relations with 50 years old men? Think of things in a worser sense than just 2 years....
In my opinion, I believe that 5 years is max for age difference...although, I'd prefer a girl around the same age I'm willing to compromise 5 years.
There is one quirk to my rule....you have to be atleast 14 to consider the 5 year max rule.
Hire a hooker to lose virginity comes from being desperate. Who's to say that the person who is dating someone a few years younger than he is desperate? That's too judgemental.
PeterNorthisawesome
Banned
"after high school 18 dating a 25 old is fine because they are SEXUALLY developed or matured."
I know this is highschool. One thing I can agree on is that yes...they are both legal.
But age is age. Sure, it seems more correct now that they are legal.....I wasn't referring to a sexual relationship...just a dating relationship.....but anyways, sexually developed?....what do you mean? ....sexually developed can mean a few things."
Did you know that the law in some states permits 16 year olds to be sexually free...therefore....he or she has the right to date any person he or she wants... he or she is legal, can do whatever he or she wants and is still in highschool....lets say this 16 year old wants to date a 29 year old....do you say that it's "wrong"....because like you said..."she or he isn't developed sexually..."...so is it wrong?" I mean, they are legal by law, right.
"Also they are old enough to make decisions and is hopefully educated enough to know the consequences and risks of STDs and Sex."
You learn about STD's in 7th grade....but you don't seem to be concerned about them until you mature a bit.
Watch it with calling me "buddy."
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
AC/DC
Master Don Juan
It's WRONG to you. It's not WRONG to other people. I don't "take advantage" of anything. The last 3 girls I've dated were 20.
Mind your own business. And next time, shut the hell up.
The Real Ice Man
Don Juan
Well, as I see it, I guess it depends on the girl. You have to judge. I mean, think about if you want people to associate you with that girl. I know you shouldn't care, but you have a rep to keep. If you hook up with anyone, you're seen as easy.
I recently read Pook's 15 lessons. I think that's what it's labeled.
Anyway, he says that you should switch places with the really hot girl, if you are a DJ. When I say this, I mean, that you can have anyone, so you should pick quality.
I'm not saying that freshman aren't quality, but most of them aren't worth the trouble. They become clingy, and then you have to get rid of them, and murder is illegal in most places, so you have to break their hearts.
As for me, I try not to break hearts. Sometimes it can't be helped.
1. Good luck hooking up with a college hot model when you are a junior. Expecially if you're just a 7, like him. But you probably resemble Brad Pitt and have tons of women. This explains why you are here complaining about guys fùcking younger girls, while he's at home banging some hottie.
2. You have to understand that illegal is not the same thing as wrong. When I was 17, I was banging a 16. In some States, this is illegal. Was I wrong? Yes? No? Who cares?
3. You think people should go for a challenge? Good, go for a challenge, rather than coming to a seduction forum. You sound already pretty good with ladies.
4. Look up in a dictionary the definition of pre-pubescent, because you sound pretty ignorant when you define 16-yrs-old's as pre-pubescent.
5. Stop giving so much importance to people on this forum, you don't know me, AC/DC or anyone else personally, so quit trying to be the universal judje.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.