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Don Juan
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Think about it..... 70% of men and women are overweight or obese in the USA (similar in UK), so no higher than a 4/10. So just being a healthy weight, somewhat slim/fit and having an average face gets you in the top 30%, perhaps even top 25% because there's always guys and gals who are of healthy BMI's but have butt-ugly faces.
A 50% / 50th percentile woman is 171lbs at 5ft4, which is fat and ugly - she is a "3" to 3.5/10, not a 5. Same with the 50% man: he is 5ft9 and 200lbs, which makes him fat & ugly (unless he's a bodybuilder or something). He is a "3" to 3.5/10 not a 5. They both need a year in the gym to come up to a 5/10.
Now here's the problem, that 30% to 25% slim/healthy weight average woman wants a top 5% > top 10% man (i.e. a 6ft0+ Chad or Chadlite) and not a 30% or 25% guy, or even a 20% percentile guy. This leaves the Healthy Weight Average man with nothing and not able to get his attractiveness match, unless he's very rich or something. Men then put extreme pressure on other men to "get rich" and earn $100K per year, own a garage of fast cars, a large house etc, which is not achievable for most of us. Guys like Richard Cooper (youtube) preach this.
The only other alternative for the healthy-weight or slim average man is to DATE DOWN IN LOOKS which means a fat woman. If you can be attracted to fat women - kudos to you, there's plenty of them. Not for me though, neither most men. I find fat bodies disgusting personally.
Slim is also a highly sort-after trait for men when scoping for a potential GF/wife/FWB, but for women immutable genetic traits are perhaps more sort after i.e. tall height, full head of hair, wide skeletal frame, good beard, nice eyes etc. Not saying slimness in men is not sort after by women, but you know what I mean.
A 50% / 50th percentile woman is 171lbs at 5ft4, which is fat and ugly - she is a "3" to 3.5/10, not a 5. Same with the 50% man: he is 5ft9 and 200lbs, which makes him fat & ugly (unless he's a bodybuilder or something). He is a "3" to 3.5/10 not a 5. They both need a year in the gym to come up to a 5/10.
Now here's the problem, that 30% to 25% slim/healthy weight average woman wants a top 5% > top 10% man (i.e. a 6ft0+ Chad or Chadlite) and not a 30% or 25% guy, or even a 20% percentile guy. This leaves the Healthy Weight Average man with nothing and not able to get his attractiveness match, unless he's very rich or something. Men then put extreme pressure on other men to "get rich" and earn $100K per year, own a garage of fast cars, a large house etc, which is not achievable for most of us. Guys like Richard Cooper (youtube) preach this.
The only other alternative for the healthy-weight or slim average man is to DATE DOWN IN LOOKS which means a fat woman. If you can be attracted to fat women - kudos to you, there's plenty of them. Not for me though, neither most men. I find fat bodies disgusting personally.
Slim is also a highly sort-after trait for men when scoping for a potential GF/wife/FWB, but for women immutable genetic traits are perhaps more sort after i.e. tall height, full head of hair, wide skeletal frame, good beard, nice eyes etc. Not saying slimness in men is not sort after by women, but you know what I mean.