All girls are sluts

[3agle 3yes]

Jaylan I'm not trying to be rude, but how's your reading comprehension? It doesn't seem to good.

...It was a response to the lame title and video. Why so defensive?...

I was not defensive, I simply asked if your comment was aimed at me. Your reply gave me the impression you didn't read my post that's all...

We all have our preferences. I like dirty talk to a degree. Dirty talk doesnt make me or plenty of guys think we are screwing a prostitute...

You've just admitted you don't like it that much (hence the "to a degree"), so what's your point? I said "I"..."I"..."I"... feel like I'm f*cking a prostitute...you can like what you want for all I care.

...And lmao...most guys love assertive women willing to give good head. I swear some of you young guys here are too funny...

Again why should I give a f*ck what most guys love? I'm not a follower and what's my age got to do with anything? Are trying you patronising me?

It's funny because I like good head too (when did I say I didn't?)...but she will do it on MY terms. You don't like that? Too f*cking bad.

A man who likes submissive women isnt a sadist. Look up what that means...You need a dictionary my friend...

It seems you are the one who needs a dictionary...

It's ironic that you used the word "degree" to make your point earlier, yet you completely ignore it when I use it...

...most men are sadists to a degree anyway (also most women are masochists to a degree too...how else can they enjoy getting f*cked)...

What does the dictionary say about degree?

de·gree (click here)
noun
4. Relative intensity or amount, as of a quality or attribute.
5. The extent or measure of a state of being, an action, or a relation.

How about sadism?

sa·dism (click here)
noun
1. The deriving of sexual gratification or the tendency to derive sexual gratification from inflicting pain or emotional abuse on others.

Why do so many guys want a big d*ck? Why do so many guys like watching porn with guys f*cking women with big d*cks? Why do some guys like to f*ck women hard?

Also so many guys like anal sex, why? Next time you f*ck your girl in the ass ask her if it hurts...just a little?

...And a woman who enjoys being submissive isnt a masochist.

Again, YOU need to look at the dictionary...

mas·och·ist [mas-uh-kist] (click here)
noun

3.a person who finds pleasure in self-denial, submissiveness, etc.

You see that? Submissiveness... yet apparently I need to read the dictionary .

Besides, remember I used that little word you ignored "to a degree".

...Women can enjoy getting screwed because it feels good. S&M is about mixing pain and humiliation with sex. Most men and women arent into that...

Why are you putting words into my mouth? Who said anything about S&M? Are you retarded?

...I like when a chick is submissive, but I also like a chick who knows how to take charge and who really meshes with me in bed.

You seem confused...which woman do you want? One who is submissive or one who "takes charge" you can't have it both ways friend.

...Isnt most sex free? Guys dont pay women for sex.

This one is tricky to explain and to be honest I used the wrong word.

By "free" I meant not adhering to any standards...a women who f*cks "anybody" or in my case a women who f*cks guys I consider degenerate...after all I believe "like attracts like".

...Chicks have gotten wild and sweaty with men prior to meeting you. Get used to that reality....

You're a bit haughty aren't you? Are you so desperate to prove your smarts to other people that you ignore words at your pleasure?

...The thought of girls getting wild and sweaty with other men DOESN'T disgust me...

Can you see that word in CAPITALS? I've bolded it just for...can't ignore it this time...

 

[Jaylan]

I think you are actually the retarded one if you say things about Sadists and Masochists, but then dont know the definitions of either word, and then question why someone mentioned S&M. Dont pick out one word in a definition sentence and then ignore all of the other things in the same sentence as that definition.

Like I said, most men and women are not sadists or masochists when it comes to sex. If you properly read anyone of those definitions you quoted, you would see that. And if you actually knew what S&M was, youd know that.

I dont have time to waste addressing the rest of your post, and I didnt even really read it all. Ill let your lame thread die now. I think most of us could see this thread would be of little worth when the original post contains loser feminine scammers like that Tyler douche. Its a shame I let myself get baited into another stupid discussion about partner count.

 

[Mike32ct]

You can't get objective information from a commercial pickup guru. They have an obvious agenda. They want every guy to think she's at the club looking to go home with a new guy every week.

I won't get into definitions, but one of the problems with English is that words get misused so frequently that they eventually rewrite the definitions in the dictionary to fit the current usage. I can't say I agree with that, but that's another topic lol.

 

[VikingKing]

All women are slvts. Its true. But look at it this way. When i was pounding my Chinese ex, I would call her a dirty little slvt, a c0ck sucker, all that and she loved it.

But she said "I'm only a slvt for you" now at the time that was true, but now she is some one elses slvt. That's her choice.

It's ok for a woman to be a slvt, as long as she is only a slvt for you.

 

[zekko]

Tyler's world heavily revolves around going to clubs, that's his world and it's all he understands. Of course his view of women is going to be a little skewed. I agree with the OP, whenever I hear an absolute (such as ALL women are sluts) I immediately get skeptical.

I've also known women who attended orgies, the group sex thing was a turn on for them. Too social for me, lol.

It's ok for a woman to be a slvt, as long as she is only a slvt for you.

"Slut" usually means a girl who has banged a lot of guys though.

 

[TheGambino]

Yes all girls are sluts

 

[zekko]

If you want to change the double-standard, simply tell women to start judging men based on their partner count.

Women do judge men based on their partner count, in a way. They just do it in reverse of the way we do. They at least expect a man to have had enough sexual partners to be well experienced in the bedroom.

Anyway, all women are not sluts. What about females who are frigid, for example?

 

[apprenticedj]

A double standard is simply saying it's ok for me to do something but it's not ok for you to do the same thing.

We'll high five a guy who has smashed 30 chicks but nearly stone to death a women with the same number. That is a double standard.

But the more that I've been thinking about this the more I think this double standard needs to live on. As Danger said men and women are different and for centuries we lived our lives knowing that to be the case. In modern times men and women have been equalized and who can really say it's worked out well for the world?

 

[VikingKing]

Tyler's world heavily revolves around going to clubs, that's his world and it's all he understands. Of course his view of women is going to be a little skewed. I agree with the OP, whenever I hear an absolute (such as ALL women are sluts) I immediately get skeptical.

I've also known women who attended orgies, the group sex thing was a turn on for them. Too social for me, lol.


"Slut" usually means a girl who has banged a lot of guys though.

Conventionally yes. But man, all women want to be treated like a dirty little slvt.

They love it.

If they have fvcked a lot of dudes. They are only good for sex or money. They are worthless when it comes to long term, or any serious relationship.

3 or less prior partners (and that is very, very generous) can be worth a serious relationship.

Other wise she is garbage.

 

[Don-Kong]

Some retarded comments on here.

If she's ****ed 1000 men and she loves you and wants to settle down with you, take it as a compliment. She tried 1000 times and didn't find what she was looking for, now she has. Eat it up.

Oh wait, you've ****ed a 1000 women so its fine right lol?
She's not skanky. Just looking, just like we are. Ok maybe a 1000 is extreme. I hear ya. But it's an example ya bas.

 

[Jaylan]

Lol this thread

 

[Sofomore]

3 or less prior partners (and that is very, very generous) can be worth a serious relationship.

Other wise she is garbage.

Good luck finding a girl like that in this day and age. If you've slept with 60 women and meet a girl that has slept with less than 3 men, she will be extremely insecure about it. Enough to the point that she will avoid you. If you're experienced, you have to purposefully act beta to get these girls.

 

[3agle 3yes]

Maybe, just MAYBE, backbreaker is the only one here with any sense...

I'm disappointed though, I thought the people on this forum were real.

We are now in an age where even some women exaggerate their partner count (make it higher than it actually is).

Most of the replies on this thread are full of clichés and anecdotal evidence.

...women don't go to clubs looking to cruise and have ONS. it happens, but they don't look for it...

I don't think I have ever seen truer words spoken. Remember here though, we're talking about HOT women.

A fool once told me:

"hot girls have it easy, all they have to do is doll themselves up, show some cleavage and men will flock to them...they can f*ck any man they want".

BS. BS. BS.

Not only do attractive women NOT have the ability to "f*ck any man they want", most attractive women aren't even looking to get f*cked.

Does anyone know the number 1 reason why women dress up and go to bars and clubs?

Does anyone know why some women make it their ambition to be pretty?

To get ATTENTION. It helps with their self-esteem...

There has been a myth going around by pua people that women hide their sexuality because they're ashamed that society will call them a slut.

Where did this BS fabrication come from? Was it used as encouragement to get laid more?

Contraception was only invented recently...it wasn't so long ago that women actually had to be careful with who they f*cked.

Though the contraceptive pill has changed the situation...the developed evolutionary mindset of women STILL lingers...

Does anyone know what sex ACTUALLY is? I'm not being patronising, I'm being honest.

It's true that sex is many things, but sex in it's SIMPLEST form IMO is number 3 (from here)

3. the instinct or attraction drawing one sex toward another, or its manifestation in life and conduct.

The emphasis on the bold.

If two people are attracted to one another EVERYTHING they do is sex.

When they approach each other...sex. When they look at each other...sex. When they talk...sex. When they kiss...sex.

Sex isn't just physical penetration.

Most attractive women don't care about c*cks, it's the person attached to it.

If you don't know this you need to get a life...

When men first learn that women actually like sex, the first MISTAKE they make is thinking women like sex the SAME WAY they do.

...women, when they get horny it's because a particular guy makes them horny. when she gets horny she doesn't go the club to look for men she calls the guy who makes her hot. sometimes it might be a guy in the club that makes her hot, but women aren't taking home men like men take home women...

I don't need to add anything to this...just read and learn.

...on avg i've probably had sex with each girl I've had sex with 3 times. on avg. some once. some 10 times. a few more than that. but on avg 3 times seems about right...

Honestly, it's like guys watch too much porn and mistake it for reality.

No man is so horny he needs to f*ck more than 5 women a month, if he does or if he's attempting to, it's because he's an insecure p*ssy and needs validation.

I've never had more than 3 serious plates at a time and I can't understand people who are supposedly good at game that still go to bars and clubs 5 days a week.

If I need to f*ck, I don't need to go out and meet someone new EVERY SINGLE TIME...people who do this don't get laid period.

...the girls I really really clicked with...i had a LOT of sex with. i was one of those guys for those girls...

+1.

...My cousin, who has no reason to judge me, and she is very hot, told me several years ago she was well over 50...

Why would would you tell someone your number count? Why would you even remember how many people you've f*cked? Why would you even want to know?....Validation?

One of the taken girls I had fvked made it a sort of contest between her and I, she was over 80.

No offense, but this is the insecure BS that goes around these days...making it a contest? Is one "better" than the other because they f*cked more people?

What happened to just f*cking because you liked it? Do either of you even f*ck people you're attracted to?

It's clear I'm waisting my here...

 

[Jaylan]

^Clearly you havent seen what a sexy crossfit girl is capable of physically. Plenty of sexy fit, strong, and feminine women want a strong man. It was only recently that society wass pushing the idea of weak women with little to no strength (skinny models whos bodies get wobbly as they age). Luckily that seems on the way out and women are starting to lift weight for better health and better bodies. The 90s spawned all that weak garbage.

I see nothing creepy about this woman or this woman either.Most chicks I meet who are serious into lifting, have fvking yummy bodies. And these bodies stay sexy for a long time too. Gimme a chick that can squat heavy...Ill take her over some weak, feeble, un-toned cardio bunny any day. I definitely congratulate women who want to put on NATURAL muscle size (chicks who dont use PEDs)...because it gives them sexy ass bodies...especially in their legs and ass.

And regarding sexual partner count...it depends on the man or woman when it comes to what someone is comfortable with. Usually conservative men and women are not ok dating a formerly promiscuous person. End of story. No need to continue debating this. Some men and women slut around, while others dont. Simple.

 

[bukowski_merit]

The whole rant.

You're going a little off the deep end here....

When you start claiming everything you do with a woman is sex - you've been sipping a little too much metaphysical tea for the day.


I actually agree with Jaylan here.... this thread is becoming some weird joke.

Like, this is what you guys really want to talk about? This is the same dead horse as looks vs. money vs. status vs game threads....


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I'm going to give my definition of a slut. And really it doesn't matter; neither does your definition. Some guys are in here saying 3+ guys, some are saying 15+, etc. This is such an abstract thing....

To me:

It's not about a number of sexual partners. It's stupid to even expect the truth on that. It's stupid to even worry about it because of the fact you're rarely going to get a real number or know if you do.

A s!ut (to me) is a woman with severe dating dysfunction. So severe that she will be incapable of having a real non-sexual based relationship for the long term. This doesn't mean she won't end up in relationships in her lifetime; just that she and her dysfunctions will self-destruct that relationship (or drive a beta man mad).

She is most at home in a sexual relationship because those types of relationships do not require the absolute loyalty she's incapable of (and loyalty is the most important thing a woman can give a man).

These types of women BY DEFAULT should NEVER be considered LTR material. However, many (uneducated) men will end getting in serious relationships with these women only to end up hurt and crying on a forum like this.

The true female s!ut is equivalent to the true male beta. So... Most of the time they'll end up together. And that's a terrible match.

What I'm saying is - you should not worry about a woman's past. HER ACTIONS will reveal if she has dating dysfunctions or not. If she's banged 0, 5, 10, 20, 40, 80 men - matters far less than this discussion is making it out to be.

How she treats you is the real measuring stick of her quality as LTR material. And a woman who is only capable of connecting to men through sexual relationships will throw up more flags than John Parry.


But Isn't Her # of Partners a Red Flag in itself?

It can be, if you ever hook her up to a lie detector and get the absolute truth out of her.

But s!uts do not know how to treat a man right. And it will be OBVIOUS to any man that's paying attention.

I hope none of you believe that a s!ut is capable of masking her true nature for longer than the peak rush of the relationship.

So for that reason - our focus should be on how a woman is treating us. Not on her past, not on how wet she gets in bed, not on if she likes dirty talk, etc.


Focus on her actions; and the s!ut will reveal her goddamn self without ever revealing the # of d!cks she's had in her....


Have a good weekend fellas...

stay away from relationships with s!uts....

 

[Jaylan]

• If you think either of those women compare to this guy in strength, then you are crazy. STRENGTH is my point, not "Fit". A huge difference.
• Regarding partner count, you will find FAR more men care about count than women do. You are merely arguing exceptions, which are meaningless when viewing the overall theme.

Once again, the argument that men=women when it comes to what we desire and judge is smashed to pieces, regardless of the wishes of those who so badly want to say that men and women are the same.

Again...

Women like strong dominant men while they themselves are not equally strong and dominant.
Men prefer commitment to women who do not have high partner counts while they themselves are not equally likely to keep their partner count "low".

Where did I say the women I referenced will directly compare to the strength of a fit man? Im saying that in general those women ARE strong. Strong compared to a lot of regular guys out there, and definitely strong compared to most women. Just because someone is not as strong as someone else, does not mean they arent strong to begin with. Get it? MMA for example. Rhonda Rousey wont compare to Matt Hughes strength, nor will he compare to Brock Lesnars. But each of them are strong motherfvkers given their size, and strong in general.

Whats the problem with a woman being strong? I find a strong lower body hot as hell, and its actually the part of a womans body that can come closest to being on par to male strength per pound of bodyweight. And as a fitness and health enthusiast, Im hella proud to see women taking up weight lifting and getting a sexy form. Beats the hell outta wobbly cardio bunnies and skinny "models" with no curves.

Do I want a woman who will bench press as much as me? Depends, because for a woman to have as much upper body strength as I do, she would either have to be on male hormones, or she would have to be an Amazon type chick. In the former case she would likely be built like a dude and not attractive looking. In the latter case, she might have a bigger and taller frame than most women, but she can still look sexy (and basically her frame gives her that ability to lift heavy). Now do I want a woman who could leg press close to as much as I can or more? Hell fvking yes...because a squat boot and dem thighs look amazing on a chick that lifts heavy. And women certainly are capable of showing more comparable lower body strength to a man. They arent at an anatomical disadvantage like they would be with upper body work.

And regarding partner count, read what I say below. Considering the way you date yourself, and the kind of company you keep, I wouldnt be surprised that you meet women who dont care about a mans partner count. However, Ive met plenty, and I mean plenty of chicks who are concerned about a guy whos slept around.

Im not arguing exceptions...youre basically trying to tell me your life experiences make my life experiences incorrect. Im telling you that its individual, and really depends on someone upbringing and dating history whether or not specific things will bother them.

Jaylan and Backbreaker were the ones who began using anecdotal evidence to refute the video's point. Others are responding in-kind, which is appropriate because anecdotal evidence is easily refutable by other anecdotal evidence. And it looks like, anecdotally, more of us know slvts with 40+ partners than believe that this is all but impossible.

Some people know a lot of skanks, others dont know a lot of skanks. But given how certain men here carry themselves and behave out in the dating world themselves, I wouldnt be surprised that like attracts like...be it through platonic or romantic means.

Most people I know are not promiscuous, and those I know who are, dont have over 40 partners. It would make sense that I dont know many skanky type men or women, because Im not into that sort of sleeping around myself. Ive had some fun in my day, but within reason. I go through my hookup periods, but get bored of it quick.

This all said...some of us know people with over 40 partner counts...some us dont know folks like that. Whats that tell you? That theres all sorts of people in the world and its silly to think in absolutes. I havent had trouble meeting men or women with modest partner counts...so there is no reason for me to assume that every chick I meet is some gal whos slept with over 40 dude.

Like bukowski was saying...a dude whos a good judge of character and who is perceptive, will be able to see if a girl slept around a lot or if shes girlfriend material. There are usually easy tells in someones behavior that gives off the kind of person they are.

 

[Jaylan]

^The OP said "hot girls" not "hot club girls". Which is why I made the original comments I did.

And I stick by my original point that its ignorant to assume someone slept around just because they are attractive. And thats its ignorant to assume someone goes out partying a lot just because they are attractive. Ive known men and women who dont fit this mold...which is eye opening in of itself when many are taught to believe that being attractive means sleeping around a lot.

If you wanna say that men and women who club frequently are more prone to promiscuity, I will agree. But only as far as to say that clubbers will tend to be more promiscuous regardless if they are average, cute, or hot. What I wont say is that someones attractiveness will make them more prone to that behavior...because weve all seen ugly, average, and pretty people skank it up in the club life.

 

[Jaylan]

1. You said women want a strong man and that men are congratulating for being strong. I said that in the present day, many strong men want a strong woman, and women are beginning to be congratulated for being strong. I did not say a strong woman will be as strong as a strong man.

And I do not see strength as a solely masculine thing. Strength is strength...be it a woman, man, or childs strength. Anyone can be strong because its relative to ones size and biology. And I dont sit insulting someones hard work just because they arent as big as some other big guy. Strength is variable.

2. On an aggregate the women YOU know ignore a mans promiscuity. The women I know dont ignore that. Every man and woman likes different things however, but unlike you, I wont pretend to know what most men or women want. Men who work out want a fit woman...but regular guys might think a particular fit woman isnt feminine...while the fit guys think shes hot.

I know women in their 20s who are status wh0res, and I know chicks whove dated bummy dudes despite the fact that these chicks had stuff going for them. By that same token I know educated guys who just want a pretty face, but other educated guys who will only dated women of a particular social background. And hell, the first time I met a 21 yr old kid telling me about the time he was in his late teens dating an older woman who bought him stuff, my thinking changed. Social dynamics have changed the way many people behave...and didnt we have a member on this board who married for money?

Im not saying men and women all want the same things. Im saying times have changed from your generation, and times keep changing...which makes it silly say things like "Men like X, and women like Y". The social dynamics of our society are a lot more complex and variable than some of you like to make it. A lot of you guys are continually and blindly black and white about so many things. What you think are exceptions to the rules, are actually growing segments of society. I just usually accept it as "Person A likes X or Y"...I stop looking at it through a gender paradigm...because a lot of that is disappearing.

And outside of all that...people tend to keep company similar to them. So is it any wonder to you that I see the world different based on the people around me, vs what you see with the people around you?

EDIT - Ill end on this; I was more blind, and did worse in my dating life when I stayed too focused on "Men behave like X, women behave like Y". Once I started paying more attention to individual behavior and adapted that way, I felt I could see, and I became more successful. This is not to say men and women are not different...because we are. This is to say that our difference are often way too overly focused on and exaggerated to the point that many men trying to understand women, begin to understand them less. Feel me?

 

[Bossman90]

If you are referring to tyler burden from red, yeah he's way to weird to actually do well with quality women. I've met a few pickup instructors and most of the time they are low value/ full of bulll**** just to get you to buy into their stuff.

 

[Jaylan]

I repeat;

1. You said women want a strong man and that men are congratulated for being strong. You then said women dont go to the gym to get strong, and pretty much called strong women creepy. Yet I see loads more girls lifting in the gym than I did a few years ago...and when girls ask me to help them work out, they always say their goal is "I just want to feel strong". This doesnt mean they wanna be strong like a man or look like a man. They wanna be strong in general and relative to their size and gender.

I then said that in the present day, many strong men want a strong woman, and women are beginning to be congratulated for being strong. I did not say a strong woman will be as strong as a strong man. And I did not say strong men want a woman who is strong like a man. When I personally say I want a strong woman, Im saying I want a fit woman who lives heavy, has strength and looks like a goddess. Theres a reason theres a saying in the fitness community that goes "Lift like a man, look like a goddess". Because women who lift naturally, will look fvking sexy and be strong at the same time. They can get that model body from having strength.

The women I originally linked to are strong women who lift naturally. The woman you linked looks like a woman who uses male hormones and got implants to boot. Your link does not disprove what I said. Many men love strong women who get that way naturally. Hence why many dudes drool over crossfit girls at the gym...because all that lifting gives them amazing bodies. All I ever see dudes do is stare when chicks do leg press and then say "man, I wish my girl would get strong like that. Look at that ass" Dont link an unnatural lifting physique and then tell me thats what Im talking about when I say strong fit dudes like strong fit women.

Im talking about strong women who do it naturally...in which case they maintain their natural femininity. Dont be stupid and ask me a dumbass question if men like a woman with a mans arm. Because when I say strong woman...Im talking about a woman that lifts NATURALLY. Stop talking in circles and read what Im saying word for word. A strong woman that lifts naturally will not look like the chick you linked.

So at the end of the day both men and women seem to gawk and drool over a naturally fit and strong man and woman. This does NOT mean men and women will have the same body when each are fit and strong. So please stop trying to inject the idea into my statements that men and women desire the same exact body type. Saying that fit strong men like a fit strong woman, does NOT mean Im saying fit strong men want a fit strong women with the body of a man. Because thats not possible for the woman naturally anyways. Stop being fvking daft and stop assuming strong means a muscle has to look like a mans muscle. If Im talking about a womens physiology, than obviously when I say strong, Im talking about feminine size and strength...

2. No you are missing the forest from the trees. You are simply ignorantly and arrogantly using your personal beliefs to apply themes to men and women, and consider anything that deviates from those themes to be subsets or exceptions.

Like I said dude...things are different and keep changing from what your generation saw. But you always seem to do this; apply your personal beliefs and expectations upon the bulk of men and women. In which case its always pointless to get into these circular debates with you.

Anyways I really have wasted too many posts in this thread. I should know to refrain from posting once you chime in with your rigid viewpoints. I know youll just reply again in another circle and tell me how wrong I am though, or retwist what I said. Enjoy.