"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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"What happened to all the nice guys?"

I see this question posted with some regularity in the personals section, so I thought I'd take a minute to explain things to the ladies out there that haven't figured it out.

What happened to all the nice guys?

The answer is simple: you did.

See, if you think back, really hard, you might vaguely remember a Platonic guy pal who always seemed to want to spend time with you. He'd tag along with you when you went shopping, stop by your place for a movie when you were lonely but didn't feel like going out, or even sit there and hold you while you sobbed and told him about how horribly the (other) guy that you were ****ing treated you.

At the time, you probably joked with your girlfriends about how he was a little puppy dog, always following you around, trying to do things to get you to pay attention to him. They probably teased you because they thought he had a crush on you. Given that his behavior was, admittedly, a little pathetic, you vehemently denied having any romantic feelings for him, and buttressed your position by claiming that you were "just friends." Besides, he totally wasn't your type. I mean, he was a little too short, or too bald, or too fat, or too poor, or didn't know how to dress himself, or basically be or do any of the things that your tall, good-looking, fit, rich, stylish boyfriend at the time pulled off with such ease.

Eventually, your Platonic buddy drifted away, as your relationship with the boyfriend got more serious and spending time with this other guy was, admittedly, a little weird, if you werent dating him. More time passed, and the boyfriend eventually cheated on you, or became boring, or you realized that the things that attracted you to him weren't the kinds of things that make for a good, long-term relationship. So, now, you're single again, and after having tried the bar scene for several months having only encountered players and douche bags, you wonder, "What happened to all the nice guys?"

Well, once again, you did.

You ignored the nice guy. You used him for emotional intimacy without reciprocating, in kind, with physical intimacy. You laughed at his consideration and resented his devotion. You valued the aloof boyfriend more than the attentive "just-a-" friend. Eventually, he took the hint and moved on with his life. He probably came to realize, one day, that women aren't really attracted to guys who hold doors open; or make dinners just because; or buy you a Christmas gift that you mentioned, in passing, that you really wanted five months ago; or listen when you're upset; or hold you when you cry. He came to realize that, if he wanted a woman like you, he'd have to act more like the boyfriend that you had. He probably cleaned up his look, started making some money, and generally acted like more of an ******* than he ever wanted to be.

Fact is, now, he's probably getting laid, and in a way, your ultimate rejection of him is to thank for that. And I'm sorry that it took the complete absence of "nice guys" in your life for you to realize that you missed them and wanted them. Most women will only have a handful of nice guys stumble into their lives, if that.

So, if you're looking for a nice guy, here's what you do:

1.) Build a time machine.
2.) Go back a few years and pull your head out of your ass.
3.) Take a look at what's right in front of you and grab ahold of it.

I suppose the other possibility is that you STILL don't really want a nice guy, but you feel the social pressure to at least appear to have matured beyond your infantile taste in men. In which case, you might be in luck, because the nice guy you claim to want has, in reality, shed his nice guy mantle and is out there looking to unleash his cynicism and resentment onto someone just like you.

If you were five years younger.

So, please: either stop misrepresenting what you want, or own up to the fact that you've ****ed yourself over. You're getting older, after all. It's time to excise the bull**** and deal with reality. You didn't want a nice guy then, and he certainly doesn't ****ing want you, now.

Sincerely,

A Recovering Nice Guy



(Can't take credit for the post, but i 100% agree, stolen off of another forum)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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this is funny

it's basically a pathetic AFC trying to convince girls that nice guys are the ones they should date.

why would u fvcking tag along with her everywhere she goes? do you not have better things to do?

...yes i know it's not you, but ^ that was toward whoever wrote this.
 

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Ha sounds like you had a little steam to rant off.

My outlook on nice guys has always been pretty neutral. I used to be a nice guy, just as I'm sure we all did. I now call myself a good guy who is nice to those who are close to me.

The reality of this world though is that people are naturally NOT nice. It's a dog eat dog world out there. If a woman finds someone who pleases her more, it doesn't matter how nice you are, she's moving on. It's a harsh reality but a good lesson to learn from. I value my friends on not how nice they are, but how honorable they are and what their object in life is. I don't associate with "nice" guys who don't have anything going for them anymore. It's all about self worth.

Just like a lot of guys, women want men who have self worth and don't have to be overly nice to makeup for whatever disadvantages they have.

I don't fault women for this. If you fault women for this, you're just going against the grain and it's really never going to change. Just GO with it. If a woman prefers a man who is mentally strong and not overly obsessive, then she's in luck. But if a woman prefers a man who is going to treat her like **** and cheat on her, then next. These women are bad news.

anyways, good post.
 

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Well i see all my nice guy friends not getting any ever sooo I'm not gonna be like them
 

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The formula is:

90% Nice guy
10% A$$hole
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Dong Fu you are right again, I have more and more respect for you as time goes on :)

I remember a while ago, maybe a year or so, one of my close friends, a "natural", said "you need to be an a$$hole, but ALSO nice and charming."
"You, Vlad, are JUST an a$$hole" lol. But I have fixed that haha.
 

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DJVladdy said:
Dong Fu you are right again, I have more and more respect for you as time goes on :)

I remember a while ago, maybe a year or so, one of my close friends, a "natural", said "you need to be an a$$hole, but ALSO nice and charming."
"You, Vlad, are JUST an a$$hole" lol. But I have fixed that haha.
Good going. The small percentage of A$$hole is what keeps it working. She wont respect 100% nice. And, if she's a valid girl, she won't tolerate more than a little as$hole. But each HB is different, and you always need to calibrate. Some need more A$$hole, some need more nice, and some just need more d!ck. :crackup:
 

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Same story goes for those really nice girls who are sweet as hell and know they like you but they're just a little too horizontal in the midsection or they have bad skin.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Dongfu said:
Good going. The small percentage of A$$hole is what keeps it working. She wont respect 100% nice. And, if she's a valid girl, she won't tolerate more than a little as$hole. But each HB is different, and you always need to calibrate. Some need more A$$hole, some need more nice, and some just need more d!ck. :crackup:

LMFAO.

Well stated dongster.
 

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I currently have two close female friends who are currently taking advantage of the nice guy(AFC) while dating a$$holes. I plan on sharing this thread with them, if nothing else to make them think about what they really want.
 

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They don't want *******s they want a strong (mentally) man. A man who won't tolerate bad behaviour and a man who she knows will walk away from the relationship if she crosses the line.

*******s are attractive because they have some of these qualities. Nice guys are not attractive because they are weak. They'll do anything for the woman and makes her the prize and she finds this a turn off.
 

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Dongfu said:
The formula is:

90% Nice guy
10% A$$hole
Couldn't agree more....just gotta have the a$$hole when it matters :)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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learned that the hard i went to ******* and im trying to be "nicer" but not afc sorta thing
 

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Dongfu said:
The formula is:

90% Nice guy
10% A$$hole
this formula backwards is what attracts women. Women love to dig out the "nice guy spots" from their bad boy boyfriends. Women want a guy that keeps them guessing and whom they think they can "reform." The few times the a*hole talks about feelings or shows emotion or just plain shows "goodness" only makes the girl want him more. It shows her he ain't all bad and is really "a good guy," (in her mind) while the rest of us 80-90% good guys are just "too good." ;)

I will always remember the times hearing my female friend telling me how her bf is such a sweety. Her bf was just an arrogant a*hole who yelled at her and didn't pay attention to her but sometimes he would give her a rose or some gift and to her that was him showing his (true good guy nature). She was attracted to the qualities that girls love in a*holes (exciting, mysterious, not putting up with female sh|t tests, unpredictable), and the few times he showed his "nice guy nature" he just had her under his spell.

Nice guys show those "good qualities" way too often. Lord forgive me but this is just how women work. You would think women would want more of the good qualities all the time but apparently not.

natural born a*holes are more 80-90% a**holes
real formula FOR US NICE GUYS TO IMITATE: 30-60% a*hole (achievable for us wannabes)
 

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Joe, with all due respect,
What the hell you talking about?!
 

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Joe The Homophobe said:
this formula backwards is what attracts women. Women love to dig out the "nice guy spots" from their bad boy boyfriends. Women want a guy that keeps them guessing and whom they think they can "reform." The few times the a*hole talks about feelings or shows emotion or just plain shows "goodness" only makes the girl want him more. It shows her he ain't all bad and is really "a good guy," (in her mind) while the rest of us 80-90% good guys are just "too good." ;)

I will always remember the times hearing my female friend telling me how her bf is such a sweety. Her bf was just an arrogant a*hole who yelled at her and didn't pay attention to her but sometimes he would give her a rose or some gift and to her that was him showing his (true good guy nature). She was attracted to the qualities that girls love in a*holes (exciting, mysterious, not putting up with female sh|t tests, unpredictable), and the few times he showed his "nice guy nature" he just had her under his spell.

Nice guys show those "good qualities" way too often. Lord forgive me but this is just how women work. You would think women would want more of the good qualities all the time but apparently not.

natural born a*holes are more 80-90% a**holes
real formula FOR US NICE GUYS TO IMITATE: 30-60% a*hole (achievable for us wannabes)
Whole thing in a nutshell. Well said.
 

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Joe The Homophobe said:
this formula backwards is what attracts women. Women love to dig out the "nice guy spots" from their bad boy boyfriends. Women want a guy that keeps them guessing and whom they think they can "reform." The few times the a*hole talks about feelings or shows emotion or just plain shows "goodness" only makes the girl want him more. It shows her he ain't all bad and is really "a good guy," (in her mind) while the rest of us 80-90% good guys are just "too good." ;)

I will always remember the times hearing my female friend telling me how her bf is such a sweety. Her bf was just an arrogant a*hole who yelled at her and didn't pay attention to her but sometimes he would give her a rose or some gift and to her that was him showing his (true good guy nature). She was attracted to the qualities that girls love in a*holes (exciting, mysterious, not putting up with female sh|t tests, unpredictable), and the few times he showed his "nice guy nature" he just had her under his spell.

Nice guys show those "good qualities" way too often. Lord forgive me but this is just how women work. You would think women would want more of the good qualities all the time but apparently not.

natural born a*holes are more 80-90% a**holes
real formula FOR US NICE GUYS TO IMITATE: 30-60% a*hole (achievable for us wannabes)

This depends on how much drama you want. Lame b!tches need a higher % *******. Really cool women, the kind I like, are more self assured and dont need "such a challenge" as a 60% a$$hole brings. You are right. There are more women than not who crave a bigger and bigger a$$hole. I personally am not looking for a girl like that.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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