"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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after you bang em - poll

whats your reaction after banging a chic

  • my interest in her goes up right after

    Votes: 2 6.5%
  • my interest in her drop significantly right after

    Votes: 13 41.9%
  • my interest remains about the same

    Votes: 16 51.6%

  • Total voters
    31

joekerr31

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question. do any of you find that after youve just banged a woman that you lose a HUGE amount of interest in her? im not talking long term loss of interest, just for a short period of time after the act. I typically find myself thinking 'man, i wish i could just go play a video game or work out' ie. have some ME time. but after about an hour or so i find my interest starts to return a bit.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Vulpine

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I can't vote.

There is a huge variable missing from the equation:

How was the sex?
 

joekerr31

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lets say the sex was good.

for me i find it doesnt really matter. even if i screw her for 2 hours, once its completely done, my IL drops dramatically.
 

bigjohnson

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I'm with Vulpine on this, but assuming sex was good then really nothing has changed for better or worse. If she puts out reliably and is good ... isn't that the goal?
 

Vulpine

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Ok, I voted, but I feel the need to explain.

I think it's hard wired in men's brains to yearn for "I'm done. Get out." but, training and society has us have to stick around and "cuddle".
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I think it's the resentment of that expectation to "cuddle" that drives the IL drop. Sticking around afterwards makes sex into a chore: like doing the dishes after a meal.

On a side note: In our "fast food nation", the same 'chore' aspect is probably why FB's and ONS's are so ever increasingly popular: no fuss, no muss, and clean up is a breeze!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Rollo Tomassi

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it all depends on the girl. Sex is good, she looks good, the IL is high, her sexual appetite is high, she's imaginative in bed, she can string more than 3 coherent thoughts together and it's mutually understood I control the frame; then my interest goes up. In fact i married that girl. But I've been in situations that were less than ideal and the performance was mediocre so I lost interest.
 

RedPill

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If there is a Hell, or some other form of eternal damnation, for me it would involve being stuck in bed with some chick I just banged who wasn't all that impressive, who is clinging to me and asleep, and meanwhile my allergies to her cat are flaring up, I'm wide awake, don't have a car to leave, and that 'just banged her and want to pick up a hamburger and go home' itch won't go away.

I voted for lose interest right after.
 

STR8UP

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Hmmmm...for me it's varying degrees of "I wanna get the fukk out of here!"

On one end of the spectrum I just wanna sleep and she gets pushed to the other side of the bed.

On the other end I have been known to immediately get up out of bed and make some kind of lame excuse why I have to leave. Those were the times where I felt like an animal with it's leg caught in a trap. Do you sit there and wait to get a bullet in the head, or do you take the lesser of two evils and chew off your own leg so you can get away? A couple of times I honestly felt like if I stayed I would have gotten a bullet (figuratively) if I wouldn't have gotten out of there FAST.

I suppose there have been a few times where I enjoyed a little closeness, but for the most part I would rather her be in the next room once I'm done.
 

KarmaSutra

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Post coital happiness depends on a few things; Whether or not she brings me cafe' au lait, peanut butter pie and a lit cigar.

If so, IL stays high. If no, IL goes straight to hell and all she sees are my ass and elbows.

Mrs. K has managed to keep my IL high thus far . . .
 

bigjohnson

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Funny, I always lay there and wonder "How can I get her to suck my d_ck a little more?", but each to his own I guess.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Sir Drinksalot

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When I'm hungry, my IL in a hamburger is higher than after I eat it. But inevitably I'll get hungry again soon. :woo:

I can't imagine there's an honest man who likes hearing them babble after he's shot his load.
 

Bonhomme

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It could go any way from way up to way down. So I voted "about the same," though "varies" would be more like it.
 
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