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So saw this good looking woman on a house music event. After a bit of testing IoI's from her I approached and asked for her name. She told her name but didn't ask for mine, I considered this low interest and moved on with a smile on my face.

Later I was just enjoying myself on a random spot, forgot about her and there she was again with her friend. Now she kept standing a couple of meters away and glancing my way, I just knew she wanted me to approach her and I did. She replied enthusiastic this time got her number hugged and bailed.

Texted her next day she replied. We called and set a date for 2 weeks later. In between the dates called twice to maintain some contact. One thing I noticed she didn't answer one time but she called me back in 3 minutes saying she was working and would call me an hour later and she did.

Day of the date I didnt confirm but just drove 45 mins and she did also drive 45 mins, means we met in the middle, shes 1.5 hour away from my town.

I park next to her car since we met in the same parking garage. Anyhow we walk to the restaurant. I do my best to let her speak 80% but she just asks loads of questions. After 2 hours we walk back to the cars and she thanks me I go for the kiss we make out. I ask her to come sit in my car since she says nice car (i drive a nice car) and then in the car I ask her to join me home since I want to show her some things at my crib. She says noo im not going all the way to your town now the first time, I ask her again saying it will be fun and Ill drive her back to her car afterwards, she declines and we make out again outside and I tell her to text me when shes home.

When shes home she texts.

"at home!''
When I got that I got the first time the itch feeling like that's not really great...I text back ''nice'' She reads that nice the next morning.

That was monday, today is thursday and I know shes free of work since she told me she was free until friday.

I called her 2.5 hours ago and she didn't call me back yet.
She didnt remove me or block me or anything though but nothing.

I do feel like I went a bit too fast with asking her over, giving all your cards away. Also im an entrepreneur, high value man and if you ask her to come to your home she knows you want her. Thats my 2 cups.

Think im done here?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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2 weeks later? Why even bother? Might as well be an eternity in this situation.
 

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Because that day worked perfect for both of us and i was busy anyway during Christmas
This is why you don't try and start dating or seeing new people during the holidays...

Too much other stuff going on and too much of a chance things go awry.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Also im an entrepreneur, high value man
You should not confuse these to mean the same thing. Financial success doesn't automatically make you "high value".

You still react emotionally to minor slights, as you did in this thread: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...o-i-blocked-her-for-my-own-self-worth.285168/

Anyway, as far as an actual evaluation...

I think she perceived your "nice" text as being butthurt by her decision not to come home and sleep with you that night. If I were you, I would've offered to drive to her place instead, eliminating that inconvenience to her, and seeing if she would come up with another excuse.

Personally, I'm surprised she showed up for a date that you had planned 2 weeks prior, without confirming, before making a 45-minute drive to see a stranger from a music event.

I do think it's done, though. You likely came across as butthurt, and that was the last communication she received from you for 4 days. I think you would benefit from viewing relationships as less of a power struggle, looking for a woman to acknowledge you as a high-value man, and instead thinking about what you can give her, rather than what you want from her.
 

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You should not confuse these to mean the same thing. Financial success doesn't automatically make you "high value".

You still react emotionally to minor slights, as you did in this thread: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...o-i-blocked-her-for-my-own-self-worth.285168/

Anyway, as far as an actual evaluation...

I think she perceived your "nice" text as being butthurt by her decision not to come home and sleep with you that night. If I were you, I would've offered to drive to her place instead, eliminating that inconvenience to her, and seeing if she would come up with another excuse.

Personally, I'm surprised she showed up for a date that you had planned 2 weeks prior, without confirming, before making a 45-minute drive to see a stranger from a music event.

I do think it's done, though. You likely came across as butthurt, and that was the last communication she received from you for 4 days. I think you would benefit from viewing relationships as less of a power struggle, looking for a woman to acknowledge you as a high-value man, and instead thinking about what you can give her, rather than what you want from her.
thats good advice. Shouldve just said see You later after the kiss but it is what it is.

I get what you say about the power struggle, high value men persona and just chill and focus on what you can give a woman
 
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@BPH I like her. I know sending something is chasing and weak but if I wanted to send a last shot text would u agree and what would u send
 

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So saw this good looking woman on a house music event. After a bit of testing IoI's from her I approached and asked for her name. She told her name but didn't ask for mine, I considered this low interest and moved on with a smile on my face.
You were right

Later I was just enjoying myself on a random spot, forgot about her and there she was again with her friend. Now she kept standing a couple of meters away and glancing my way, I just knew she wanted me to approach her and I did. She replied enthusiastic this time got her number hugged and bailed.

Texted her next day she replied. We called and set a date for 2 weeks later. In between the dates called twice to maintain some contact. One thing I noticed she didn't answer one time but she called me back in 3 minutes saying she was working and would call me an hour later and she did.
Ehh, it’s clear you misunderstood the approach, and you’re already putting yourself in a reactive, defensive stance. That’s definitely not a good sign.

Day of the date I didnt confirm but just drove 45 mins and she did also drive 45 mins, means we met in the middle, shes 1.5 hour away from my town.
Ummm, just no

I park next to her car since we met in the same parking garage. Anyhow we walk to the restaurant. I do my best to let her speak 80% but she just asks loads of questions. After 2 hours we walk back to the cars and she thanks me I go for the kiss we make out. I ask her to come sit in my car since she says nice car (i drive a nice car) and then in the car I ask her to join me home since I want to show her some things at my crib. She says noo im not going all the way to your town now the first time, I ask her again saying it will be fun and Ill drive her back to her car afterwards, she declines and we make out again outside and I tell her to text me when shes home.
There’s too much forced aggression and reactive defending. You’re clearly in the weaker position in this matchup, while she holds the top decision-making role.

When shes home she texts.

"at home!''
When I got that I got the first time the itch feeling like that's not really great...I text back ''nice'' She reads that nice the next morning.

That was monday, today is thursday and I know shes free of work since she told me she was free until friday.

I called her 2.5 hours ago and she didn't call me back yet.
She didnt remove me or block me or anything though but nothing.

I do feel like I went a bit too fast with asking her over, giving all your cards away. Also im an entrepreneur, high value man and if you ask her to come to your home she knows you want her. Thats my 2 cups.

Think im done here?
It's pretty much over

Verdict:


The girl seems to have low to low-medium interest in you at best. The main issue is that you clearly value her more than she values you, putting yourself in a position where she can dominate the power dynamic. It’s probably not worth investing more time in her, as the effort outweighs the reward and she already seems to have a strong influence over you. You aren't going to win this war, so quit while it is not too late.
 

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You were right



Ehh, it’s clear you misunderstood the approach, and you’re already putting yourself in a reactive, defensive stance. That’s definitely not a good sign.



Ummm, just no



There’s too much forced aggression and reactive defending. You’re clearly in the weaker position in this matchup, while she holds the top decision-making role.



It's pretty much over

Verdict:


The girl seems to have low to low-medium interest in you at best. The main issue is that you clearly value her more than she values you, putting yourself in a position where she can dominate the power dynamic. It’s probably not worth investing more time in her, as the effort outweighs the reward and she already seems to have a strong influence over you. You aren't going to win this war, so quit while it is not too late.
she drove 1 hour to meet me. Probably she was higher interest then you say als we made out. Girls give their cheek if they dont like You. The rest u say is true
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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she drove 1 hour to meet me. Probably she was higher interest then you say als we made out. Girls give their cheek if they dont like You. The rest u say is true
Maybe she was just bored, or maybe she was trying to be nice. Most people don’t really value their time, so it’s not a big deal to them. The 2 factors that matter are 1). Are you getting sloppy toppy and sugar walls and 2). Is she initiating contact, buying you crap, and maintaining healthy contact. Otherwise, the rest is just smoke and mirrors.
 

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Maybe she was just bored, or maybe she was trying to be nice. Most people don’t really value their time, so it’s not a big deal to them. The 2 factors that matter are 1). Are you getting sloppy toppy and sugar walls and 2). Is she initiating contact, buying you crap, and maintaining healthy contact. Otherwise, the rest is just smoke and mirrors.
thats true, thanks.
 

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So saw this good looking woman on a house music event. After a bit of testing IoI's from her I approached and asked for her name. She told her name but didn't ask for mine, I considered this low interest and moved on with a smile on my face.

Later I was just enjoying myself on a random spot, forgot about her and there she was again with her friend. Now she kept standing a couple of meters away and glancing my way, I just knew she wanted me to approach her and I did. She replied enthusiastic this time got her number hugged and bailed.

Texted her next day she replied. We called and set a date for 2 weeks later. In between the dates called twice to maintain some contact. One thing I noticed she didn't answer one time but she called me back in 3 minutes saying she was working and would call me an hour later and she did.

Day of the date I didnt confirm but just drove 45 mins and she did also drive 45 mins, means we met in the middle, shes 1.5 hour away from my town.

I park next to her car since we met in the same parking garage. Anyhow we walk to the restaurant. I do my best to let her speak 80% but she just asks loads of questions. After 2 hours we walk back to the cars and she thanks me I go for the kiss we make out. I ask her to come sit in my car since she says nice car (i drive a nice car) and then in the car I ask her to join me home since I want to show her some things at my crib. She says noo im not going all the way to your town now the first time, I ask her again saying it will be fun and Ill drive her back to her car afterwards, she declines and we make out again outside and I tell her to text me when shes home.

When shes home she texts.

"at home!''
When I got that I got the first time the itch feeling like that's not really great...I text back ''nice'' She reads that nice the next morning.

That was monday, today is thursday and I know shes free of work since she told me she was free until friday.

I called her 2.5 hours ago and she didn't call me back yet.
She didnt remove me or block me or anything though but nothing.

I do feel like I went a bit too fast with asking her over, giving all your cards away. Also im an entrepreneur, high value man and if you ask her to come to your home she knows you want her. Thats my 2 cups.

Think im done here?

Being high value doesn't come from you claiming it, it comes from your actions which are dictated by your internal beliefs about yourself.

And no offense, nothing based on your actions in most cases says high value, it usually says the opposite.

Chasing, seeking validation, neediness, claiming you are doing something and moving on only to actually be doing it to try and get her back, etc...

None of that is high value, it's low value.

You can claim you are high value all you want, that you make money and this that and the other, but until you actually start acting like it, women will not believe it and neither will most people on this forum.

High value men don't need to tell others how high value they are, they allow their actions to show it.
 

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@BPH I like her. I know sending something is chasing and weak but if I wanted to send a last shot text would u agree and what would u send
If you want to, go ahead.

I think mistakes have already been made, but it's not like you're losing anything you haven't already lost at this point.

But if you want to train yourself out of a bad habit, no.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

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With @Glassguy on this one...and there is valid feedback in this thread too...

She was obviously high interest in my book. She drove a long way, was on time & engaged during date. She made out with you after.

I have some thoughts from the ladies' powder room, but lets see what OPs analysis is first(be honest...if you saw your post what would you advise)?
 

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You should have sent her this YouTube song for reference ... :lol: :lol:

***Rinnnggg***
"Somebody answer the phone...phone...phone..."

 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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