"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
AFCs -- What's wrong with them??
- Thread starter Fitch
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
WesCottII
Master Don Juan
I don't know, you're going camping, before you go you have to pick your tent. There are 10 of them, 9 are brown and shabby, falling to pieces, the other is bright yellow, brand new. They are all the same price, which would you choose?
Yeah, my analogy sucks, but you get the picture. Each AFC is like the last, they have no differentiator from the next. They are submissive, always seeking to please, willing to submit to every girls whim.
In short. They don't get girls.
I am a bit AFC. But I'm not like that. I used to be worse. In fact, this girl asked me to do something for her -- she even expected me to appease her -- however, I bluntly refused. She was surprised...
In general, what is so bad about it? Why do we all preach never succum to the "evil" side. The AFC side...
check_mate_kid_uk
Master Don Juan
TonyTheTigerOI
Master Don Juan
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
! I expected more of you Fitch! i thought you knew you're stuff! OK well i will explain it to you. Once upon a time a teen came to this site to solve his problem of getting out of the FRIEND ZONE. He figured that by being A FRIEND. He got nowhere. He read and read until his mind was filled with DJ skills until his mind exploded. He finally realized that to act like a DJ...YOU MUST BE THE DJ!
In lesson there's three kinds of people.
AFC: The meak, weak, self-conscious, friend or ignored by girls he meets. Enthrones all girls, and controlled by their every whim. Needy for girls. (no confidence)
The jerk: The guy who treats all girls like ****, gets laid acouple times by a girl then dumped. Controls all girls, but to sucha an extreme that they get left by them after awhile. Needy for girls.(Lots of confidence)
The Dj: The median between the two. They have lots of confidence, dominate the girl, but not an *******. He is NOT needy for girls. Girls NEED HIM! Girls do not run his life!
(and please explain to me why you would ask such a question!?)
i would have not replied to this if i did not talk to you online haha.
I need to go workout now. Goodbye.
BE THE DJ!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
NYC Dude
Master Don Juan
alphawolfx
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he pretends to be a girl's friend to get into her pants
he pretends he's okay with other peope's behavior when he's not
he doesn't feel he's good enough, and constantly tries to prove himself
he's afraid of other people being better than him, so will insult and sabotage them given the chance
the DJ
is honest about what he wants in life and relationships
treats others well because he cares
is a guide for people when they need help
etc.
go read "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by robert glover for a bigger list - it doesn't teach you to be a JERK, just a MAN
Haha. I'm not asking what is an AFC. I said, "What is WRONG with having AFC qualities -- being AFC?" It is an opinion thread.Originally posted by ireallywantgirls
Once upon a time a teen came to this site to solve his problem of getting out of the FRIEND ZONE. He figured that by being A FRIEND. He got nowhere. He read and read until his mind was filled with DJ skills until his mind exploded. He finally realized that to act like a DJ...YOU MUST BE THE DJ!
In lesson there's three kinds of people.
AFC: The meak, weak, self-conscious, friend or ignored by girls he meets. Enthrones all girls, and controlled by their every whim. Needy for girls. (no confidence)
The jerk: The guy who treats all girls like ****, gets laid acouple times by a girl then dumped. Controls all girls, but to sucha an extreme that they get left by them after awhile. Needy for girls.(Lots of confidence)
The Dj: The median between the two. They have lots of confidence, dominate the girl, but not an *******. He is NOT needy for girls. Girls NEED HIM! Girls do not run his life!
(and please explain to me why you would ask such a question!?)
i would have not replied to this if i did not talk to you online haha.
I need to go workout now. Goodbye.
BE THE DJ!
What is really wrong with the AFCs of today?
We preach to negliect the newbishness of the AFC. Is this a wise choice? Isn't there some GOOD we can learn from our counterparts -- AFCs?
It doesn't hurt to be nice and respect women.
But not to the extreme. You still need to have confidence, arrogance, dominance...and all the other DJ qualities.
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.