"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
AFCs -- What's wrong with them??
- Thread starter Fitch
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
WesCottII
Master Don Juan
I don't know, you're going camping, before you go you have to pick your tent. There are 10 of them, 9 are brown and shabby, falling to pieces, the other is bright yellow, brand new. They are all the same price, which would you choose?
Yeah, my analogy sucks, but you get the picture. Each AFC is like the last, they have no differentiator from the next. They are submissive, always seeking to please, willing to submit to every girls whim.
In short. They don't get girls.
I am a bit AFC. But I'm not like that. I used to be worse. In fact, this girl asked me to do something for her -- she even expected me to appease her -- however, I bluntly refused. She was surprised...
In general, what is so bad about it? Why do we all preach never succum to the "evil" side. The AFC side...
check_mate_kid_uk
Master Don Juan
TonyTheTigerOI
Master Don Juan
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
! I expected more of you Fitch! i thought you knew you're stuff! OK well i will explain it to you. Once upon a time a teen came to this site to solve his problem of getting out of the FRIEND ZONE. He figured that by being A FRIEND. He got nowhere. He read and read until his mind was filled with DJ skills until his mind exploded. He finally realized that to act like a DJ...YOU MUST BE THE DJ!
In lesson there's three kinds of people.
AFC: The meak, weak, self-conscious, friend or ignored by girls he meets. Enthrones all girls, and controlled by their every whim. Needy for girls. (no confidence)
The jerk: The guy who treats all girls like ****, gets laid acouple times by a girl then dumped. Controls all girls, but to sucha an extreme that they get left by them after awhile. Needy for girls.(Lots of confidence)
The Dj: The median between the two. They have lots of confidence, dominate the girl, but not an *******. He is NOT needy for girls. Girls NEED HIM! Girls do not run his life!
(and please explain to me why you would ask such a question!?)
i would have not replied to this if i did not talk to you online haha.
I need to go workout now. Goodbye.
BE THE DJ!
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
NYC Dude
Master Don Juan
alphawolfx
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he pretends to be a girl's friend to get into her pants
he pretends he's okay with other peope's behavior when he's not
he doesn't feel he's good enough, and constantly tries to prove himself
he's afraid of other people being better than him, so will insult and sabotage them given the chance
the DJ
is honest about what he wants in life and relationships
treats others well because he cares
is a guide for people when they need help
etc.
go read "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by robert glover for a bigger list - it doesn't teach you to be a JERK, just a MAN
Haha. I'm not asking what is an AFC. I said, "What is WRONG with having AFC qualities -- being AFC?" It is an opinion thread.Originally posted by ireallywantgirls
Once upon a time a teen came to this site to solve his problem of getting out of the FRIEND ZONE. He figured that by being A FRIEND. He got nowhere. He read and read until his mind was filled with DJ skills until his mind exploded. He finally realized that to act like a DJ...YOU MUST BE THE DJ!
In lesson there's three kinds of people.
AFC: The meak, weak, self-conscious, friend or ignored by girls he meets. Enthrones all girls, and controlled by their every whim. Needy for girls. (no confidence)
The jerk: The guy who treats all girls like ****, gets laid acouple times by a girl then dumped. Controls all girls, but to sucha an extreme that they get left by them after awhile. Needy for girls.(Lots of confidence)
The Dj: The median between the two. They have lots of confidence, dominate the girl, but not an *******. He is NOT needy for girls. Girls NEED HIM! Girls do not run his life!
(and please explain to me why you would ask such a question!?)
i would have not replied to this if i did not talk to you online haha.
I need to go workout now. Goodbye.
BE THE DJ!
What is really wrong with the AFCs of today?
We preach to negliect the newbishness of the AFC. Is this a wise choice? Isn't there some GOOD we can learn from our counterparts -- AFCs?
It doesn't hurt to be nice and respect women.
But not to the extreme. You still need to have confidence, arrogance, dominance...and all the other DJ qualities.
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.