"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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HandyAndy

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So? Im not directing this post towards you or flaming you in any way, but I dont understand why everyone keep posting about how someone is an AFC, I mean whats the big deal? They are everywhere and there are millions of them, no need to point them out. My opinion, ill leave now :)
 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

it's about 20 replies consisting only of chicks which all consist of some variant of

Yes, it's almost never a bad idea to give a girl flowers on the first date
 

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Haha....at least one girl got it right.

I think it's so crazy...what makes women think like this??
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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HandyAndy said:
So? Im not directing this post towards you or flaming you in any way, but I dont understand why everyone keep posting about how someone is an AFC, I mean whats the big deal? They are everywhere and there are millions of them, no need to point them out. My opinion, ill leave now :)
Just saying.. ;)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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j0n024

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HAHAHAHAHHAHHAH I actually saw this SAME question yesterday (I was going to see the questions about wrestling) and was deiciding to upload this or not but decidied against it hahahah . I think the comments are 100% gold ....I mean the womens comments are so damn hilarious "I wish there were more guys like you," the rest of her comment would probably be "So I can use you as a tampon and get fvkced by some guy that treats me bad and then come cry to you."

I am not making fun of men but as most of the guys here that know what the hell they are doing know from experience that women dont care for this sappy crap and wasting your time like this is a waste of time unless its on a LTR.

But I dont think there is a problem pointing them out as long as you stop at that and dont make fun of them or attack them because of what they are .....that's why I have stopped arguing with people about dumb things that have no relevance.
 

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I feel sorry for that guy. And I really hate all the girls who said yes. I skimmed through it and found only one comment that said not to do it.
 
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A good friend of mine asked me recently if he should give a rose on the first date. I told him, "Yeah dude, definitely. Let me know how the break up goes" :p
 

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Interesting, this same topic came up in the plenty of fish forums, and most of girls-much to my surprise-advised the guy not to bring any type of gifts or flowers on a first date.

In the thread I saw, even the girls don't really want this-I wonder if it's a demographic thing. The median age on POF seems to be older, and these responses I read in this link sound like teenagers.


They are everywhere and there are millions of them, no need to point them out.
Actually, I completely disagree and think you missed the whole point(s)

1) It is amusing.
2) It reinforces why many of us have come here-we got tired of listening to women tell us what they want, and started listening to other guys who found out what they want for us. Huge point there.
3) It's a reminder for some of us on how far we've come. Remember when you were the guy bringing the flowers? Those days seem oh-so-long-ago, but it took a lot of learning and facing your fears and accepting some uncomfortable truths for you to get this far.
 

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Uhhhhhhh, I don't really give out flowers at all. I've even had girls comment, "why is it you never get me flowers?". The truth is I just don't like flowers, if I wanted flowers, I would go to a botanical garden. Much more cost effective as I can see thousands for 5$ or so. So if I ever do give flowers they really think it's a big deal.

If I owned a flower shop, I'd probably give them out. Just one though. The real issue is why on earth does he think giving a flower is going to help him deflower her? Does he actually believe this is important? If he was meeting a guy for dinner would he bring a gift? OK, don't answer that, let's just assume he's not that kind of guy :)

For fvcks sake, why doesn't he just get her over to his place for a "movie" and shag her already. Dinner and flowers are annoying and make it take longer to get to the fvcking part. As far as I am concerned this guy probably wouldn't know what to do with a woman even if he got her into the bedroom anyway, and I quite certain she will immediately come to the same conclusion. Case closed, the only women interested will be boring ones.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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