"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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HandyAndy

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So? Im not directing this post towards you or flaming you in any way, but I dont understand why everyone keep posting about how someone is an AFC, I mean whats the big deal? They are everywhere and there are millions of them, no need to point them out. My opinion, ill leave now :)
 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

it's about 20 replies consisting only of chicks which all consist of some variant of

Yes, it's almost never a bad idea to give a girl flowers on the first date
 

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Haha....at least one girl got it right.

I think it's so crazy...what makes women think like this??
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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HandyAndy said:
So? Im not directing this post towards you or flaming you in any way, but I dont understand why everyone keep posting about how someone is an AFC, I mean whats the big deal? They are everywhere and there are millions of them, no need to point them out. My opinion, ill leave now :)
Just saying.. ;)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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j0n024

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HAHAHAHAHHAHHAH I actually saw this SAME question yesterday (I was going to see the questions about wrestling) and was deiciding to upload this or not but decidied against it hahahah . I think the comments are 100% gold ....I mean the womens comments are so damn hilarious "I wish there were more guys like you," the rest of her comment would probably be "So I can use you as a tampon and get fvkced by some guy that treats me bad and then come cry to you."

I am not making fun of men but as most of the guys here that know what the hell they are doing know from experience that women dont care for this sappy crap and wasting your time like this is a waste of time unless its on a LTR.

But I dont think there is a problem pointing them out as long as you stop at that and dont make fun of them or attack them because of what they are .....that's why I have stopped arguing with people about dumb things that have no relevance.
 

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I feel sorry for that guy. And I really hate all the girls who said yes. I skimmed through it and found only one comment that said not to do it.
 
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A good friend of mine asked me recently if he should give a rose on the first date. I told him, "Yeah dude, definitely. Let me know how the break up goes" :p
 

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Interesting, this same topic came up in the plenty of fish forums, and most of girls-much to my surprise-advised the guy not to bring any type of gifts or flowers on a first date.

In the thread I saw, even the girls don't really want this-I wonder if it's a demographic thing. The median age on POF seems to be older, and these responses I read in this link sound like teenagers.


They are everywhere and there are millions of them, no need to point them out.
Actually, I completely disagree and think you missed the whole point(s)

1) It is amusing.
2) It reinforces why many of us have come here-we got tired of listening to women tell us what they want, and started listening to other guys who found out what they want for us. Huge point there.
3) It's a reminder for some of us on how far we've come. Remember when you were the guy bringing the flowers? Those days seem oh-so-long-ago, but it took a lot of learning and facing your fears and accepting some uncomfortable truths for you to get this far.
 

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Uhhhhhhh, I don't really give out flowers at all. I've even had girls comment, "why is it you never get me flowers?". The truth is I just don't like flowers, if I wanted flowers, I would go to a botanical garden. Much more cost effective as I can see thousands for 5$ or so. So if I ever do give flowers they really think it's a big deal.

If I owned a flower shop, I'd probably give them out. Just one though. The real issue is why on earth does he think giving a flower is going to help him deflower her? Does he actually believe this is important? If he was meeting a guy for dinner would he bring a gift? OK, don't answer that, let's just assume he's not that kind of guy :)

For fvcks sake, why doesn't he just get her over to his place for a "movie" and shag her already. Dinner and flowers are annoying and make it take longer to get to the fvcking part. As far as I am concerned this guy probably wouldn't know what to do with a woman even if he got her into the bedroom anyway, and I quite certain she will immediately come to the same conclusion. Case closed, the only women interested will be boring ones.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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