"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Snyper

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Hey guys. I've been an AFC for as long as I can remember. It's my nature, I'm just too nice to people and I want to please them (guys and girls alike). I'm slowly but surely growing out of that nature right now, thank god, but that's not why I'm making this thread.

So I'm going shopping with a group of friends this upcoming Friday. I'm hoping it'll also be an occasion to pick up chicks. The question is, does being with a group of friends have some kind of a downside or an upside? How do I approach a girl? With my friends with me or left a bit behind? And if a girl is with a group, do I ignore the group, talk only to her or acknowledge all of them first then focus on her?

Greatly appreciated
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Pathgen

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Don't ever ignore the group. Make friends with all of them. They have to accept you and once you have earned that accpetance is when your target will be comfortable with you.

Also, dont say your an afc. From this point on you are a Don Juan. People tell themselves they are this and they are that and they beleive it. If you say you are a stupid you might actually come to believe that. The same principle applies here.

As Pook says " Think and you shall become"
 

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in relation to Pathgen's post, you should treat this as a group that you are to approach. You should talk to all of them, befriend all of them, and then focus on the girl.

however, you need to not chase her. just have a conversation with her, then go back to talking to the group, then come back talking to her, and repeat. instead of making the trip an okay time shopping, make it a great time for her and your friends.
 

ignue121_2

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Just be confident and friendly to EVERYONE. Make yourself the center of attention, but in a good way. Confidence is the key here my friend. Welcome.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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