"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Advice on dating older women...

Bourne

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Well kind of date.

Here is the setup:
Went to engagement party. One women was quiet taken by me, she was for a little while but this is the first time I spend time talking to her.

Everything went great. She is a touch person = good sign.

2 hours later I walked her to her car,

Me:"I had alot of fun, I want to see you again. Let me get your number"

She started to write her number down.

Me:"Are you free on saturdays and sundays?"
Her:"I'm a busy women, I like to keep busy. Keeps me out of my head."
Me:"I know what you mean, I'm similar"
Her:"Yeah? I like to play, I play alot, are you down to play."
Me:"I love to play"
Her:"bye"
Me:"bye"

What? Play = sex. I take it. Now how do I make that transition. I don't have any experience in doing that. Do I take her somewhere for a couple of drinks? Then go from there? What do I do and how do I take those next steps to her bed? When do I call? When do I set soemthing up? and How do I escalate?

I'm 26, she is in her late 30s or so.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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This is how I see things.

I am busy, very busy = I don't want a relationship.
Are you down to play = want to fvck?

If you want to fvck, you are in business. Just suggest a get to gether at her house or yours (if you can cook). :up:
 

Bourne

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My instincts telling me to call her up in the afternoon tmrw, and say I am going to a local lounge later that night and I want her to come. Pick her up, go out and get couple of drinks. And the rest is history or so to speak.

My house is out of the question. Its hers or car or great outdoors.
 

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Bourne said:
My instincts telling me to call her up in the afternoon tmrw, and say I am going to a local lounge later that night and I want her to come. Pick her up, go out and get couple of drinks. And the rest is history or so to speak.

My house is out of the question. Its hers or car or great outdoors.
Find out where she lives. Then you find a bar close by, this way she will suggest to go to her place afterwards.
 

Bourne

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This advice was given to me on another forum, I am going to take it. I don't have any experience in this and this guy had plenty. What do you guys think.

"You could have had sex after that conversation. Now that you haven't, wait until next wednesday and call her: "Hey this is Bourne, you free to play on Friday night? I'll pick you up for some drinks" If she says she is busy, tell her she has your number and she can call you when she is free. Older women don't like BS. Hit her hard or leave the ball in her court and leave. trust me, I have a lot of experience in this."
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Ask if she knows how to play foosball... make the 'ball' shoot with the snap of her wrist...

Or basketball... if she likes 'finger rolls', or comment that you like to bang the balls on the backboard... even if she's heard of the game 'around the world'...

Or volleyball... you like to spike the ball over the net to her side... and score.


The innuendo could lead to some good things...
 
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