"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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muntted

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Ok guys, I have been visiting these forums on and off for the last year or so, but now I need your help on getting a chick.

Situation was, I managed to get a chick from her boyfriend and we had been doing stuff for the last few months. I finally get the courage to ask her out, but said lets do it after the 2 week break we have so its not a boring start to us being official.
Looking back on it, it was a stupid move.

Anyway during this break she met an old heartthrob and she says he just has that X factor.

This is, I have really started to like this girl, and want her back. She knows I liker her but has asked for me to not pull any moves on her because she is genuinely interested in this other guy.

Please, I know I was stupid, so can I get some constructive help?
Thanks
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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GloriouslyInsane

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The best advice has already been given. AT BEST she's IMAGINING THE OTHER GUY and she's subtly trying to tell you that she's NOT attracted to you because you DO NOT have the "x" factor.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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muntted

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well, I saw her again today. And although this guy isnt imaginary, he does live an hour and a half away.

She still does things that indicates that she likes me.
I just dont know the coarse of action to take, to give her effection so that she sees that its all coming from me and not him, or to not give her effection as to make her realise that he cant give her much at that distance
 

Desdinova

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She knows I liker her but has asked for me to not pull any moves on her because she is genuinely interested in this other guy.
You're in the friend zone, and getting out is next to impossible. She's got wet panties for another dude, but she's dry as stale bread when she's around you.

Francisco gave you one worded advice.... NEXT. Forget about this girl and move on to the next one.
 
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