Mikelo2k
Senior Don Juan
Maybe Guitar_Whizz died? o_0
Mikelo2k
Mikelo2k
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Advanced DJ Bootcamp
- Thread starter Guitar_Whizz
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Guitar_Whizz
Master Don Juan
Hello my fellow DJs. It's been ages since I posted the idea for an advanced bootcamp, so let me explain a few things. At the moment I don't have the time to follow this through. The other thing is, I'm pretty comfortable in most pickup scenarios now, and I thought MOTU was going to do an advanced bootcamp anyway?
However, if you DJs are seriously interested in my advanced bootcamp, then I will post a starting date, and respond to your posts.
Let me know what you'd like to do.
However, if you DJs are seriously interested in my advanced bootcamp, then I will post a starting date, and respond to your posts.
Let me know what you'd like to do.
GuitarWizz, although your intentions are good, if you want an ADVANCE bootcamp, you really have to push past the comfort zone.
Your structure, in my opinion, focuses too much on the initial approach. I think if you really want to push yourselves, you have to push PAST the opening into attracting and connecting with the target.
Here is my suggested course program:
Week 1
Work on your opening. Pick an opening line that you are comfortable with, and STICK WITH THIS ONE. The good thing about opening with only ONE opener is that with time, you will get all the possible responses from your opener, and you can then have things to go on with from each response.
With opening with different openers each time, you don't know how the girl will respond to you, which sometimes will blow you out.
The aim of this week is to get your fear of approaching OUT of you. Just work on opening, no pressure to continue the conversation if you don't want to.
Aim for 70 approaches.
Week 2
Take the first day (or the last couple of week 1) to work out 5 interesting stories about yourself. One funny story (genuinely funny), one adventure story, one lovey dovey story, one interesting story and one inspirational story.
These stories should convey WHO YOU ARE as a person, and they should also DEMONSTRATE PERSONALITY.
The aim of this week is to open, and then tell the stories. Should do about 30 approaches, which realistically will get you to tell your stories about 10 times.
Week 3
Learn to ball bust and role play with chicks.
The aim of this week is to go out and be C&F and role play with chicks. So you open, C&F, role play and then tell your stories that you have rehearsed last week.
Aim to do about 20 sets.
Week 4
Learn to qualify the girl. You CANNOT get a girl's number and expect her to turn up to Day 2 if you haven't qualify her properly.
Think about all the things that you like in a girl, and expressly ask questions devised for you to find out if they are that type of girl. Should have about 4 qualities that you want.
Aim for this week is to open, C&F, role play, tell stories and then qualify the girl. GRAB YOUR BALLS AND ASK FOR HER NUMBER.
Aim to do about 10 sets
Week 5
Comfort and Trust
You also need to have rapport with the girl. This week write down stories about you as a child, your beliefs, hopes and dreams. With rapport, you and the chick are trying to get to know one another.
Aim for this week to open, C&F, role play, tell stories, qualify, spend about 10 minutes on comfort and trust stories and then CLOSE the girl with her phone number.
This should get you guys started.
Your structure, in my opinion, focuses too much on the initial approach. I think if you really want to push yourselves, you have to push PAST the opening into attracting and connecting with the target.
Here is my suggested course program:
Week 1
Work on your opening. Pick an opening line that you are comfortable with, and STICK WITH THIS ONE. The good thing about opening with only ONE opener is that with time, you will get all the possible responses from your opener, and you can then have things to go on with from each response.
With opening with different openers each time, you don't know how the girl will respond to you, which sometimes will blow you out.
The aim of this week is to get your fear of approaching OUT of you. Just work on opening, no pressure to continue the conversation if you don't want to.
Aim for 70 approaches.
Week 2
Take the first day (or the last couple of week 1) to work out 5 interesting stories about yourself. One funny story (genuinely funny), one adventure story, one lovey dovey story, one interesting story and one inspirational story.
These stories should convey WHO YOU ARE as a person, and they should also DEMONSTRATE PERSONALITY.
The aim of this week is to open, and then tell the stories. Should do about 30 approaches, which realistically will get you to tell your stories about 10 times.
Week 3
Learn to ball bust and role play with chicks.
The aim of this week is to go out and be C&F and role play with chicks. So you open, C&F, role play and then tell your stories that you have rehearsed last week.
Aim to do about 20 sets.
Week 4
Learn to qualify the girl. You CANNOT get a girl's number and expect her to turn up to Day 2 if you haven't qualify her properly.
Think about all the things that you like in a girl, and expressly ask questions devised for you to find out if they are that type of girl. Should have about 4 qualities that you want.
Aim for this week is to open, C&F, role play, tell stories and then qualify the girl. GRAB YOUR BALLS AND ASK FOR HER NUMBER.
Aim to do about 10 sets
Week 5
Comfort and Trust
You also need to have rapport with the girl. This week write down stories about you as a child, your beliefs, hopes and dreams. With rapport, you and the chick are trying to get to know one another.
Aim for this week to open, C&F, role play, tell stories, qualify, spend about 10 minutes on comfort and trust stories and then CLOSE the girl with her phone number.
This should get you guys started.
So pimp its scary
Master Don Juan
Holy Crap!!! Why would you need an ADVANCED boot camp.
Just do the regular boot camp, and you should be at a point where you don't need to think about approaching women anymore...
It took me 3 shots to properly complete the boot camp, and I haven't turned back....
Just do the regular boot camp, and you should be at a point where you don't need to think about approaching women anymore...
It took me 3 shots to properly complete the boot camp, and I haven't turned back....
Guitar_Whizz
Master Don Juan
Hey uniassign, I like your ideas. You're right, I think my bootcamp focuses way too much on openers, and I've recently found out that opening is easy once you get over the fear....it's what you say and do after that that is hard.
Would any DJ's care to start uniassign's advanced bootcamp with me in a few week's time?
Would any DJ's care to start uniassign's advanced bootcamp with me in a few week's time?
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
donny osmond
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Inspirational stuff. Interesting to hear that you are from England - i'm from the great country myself and i'm slowly integrating these American's 'dating rules' into my game.
Have yet to do ANY approaches though!!!! Next friday i'm going out, and i've made it my mission to approach at least 5 girls.
Do you ever see girls in pubs/clubs?
Have yet to do ANY approaches though!!!! Next friday i'm going out, and i've made it my mission to approach at least 5 girls.
Do you ever see girls in pubs/clubs?
masteralios
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looks like the person who started this thread has done a runner
just as i was getting pysched up for it
just as i was getting pysched up for it