"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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squirrels said:
Worst that can happen is she doesn't call...and she probably won't...
Yup, and that's true even if she actually liked him. This is where a little LMS philosophy isn't so bad afterall. Women are not naturally aggressors. She has to fight liking you/wanting to go out with you over actually going against her internal instincts which would have her not seeking you out. If you wait on her, she has to overcome her internal programming which most likely wont happen.

We're the hunter/gatherers. If you really want a particular woman, you have to go for her.

Do I believe in luck? I answer yes to that question. But the only kind of luck I know of is the kind you make.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Gent's,
All some valid discussion. Bottom line is: I went for the personal #. Did I learn somethings? Yeah, like if I was faster on taking the shot while Nurse Crotchet wasn't there...that may have played better. Whatever. It is what it is. I'm not goin to stay up at night pining for what our kids will look like. She's a big girl, and who knows I could go out with her and decide she really is boring and too focused on work, or has a whole host of other issues. Focusing on the outcome is not the way to go. It's all about the process.
In the mean time I hooked up with a old girlfriend last night for a currency ride, then kicked her out in the am with a seeya when I seeya take. Frame setting.. That is something I had forgotten, and I'm embedding it into my retina for good.
There's about 3 others I have in play. Life's good. Yeah, focusing on them, and their needs instead of YOURSELF, and what makes YOU feel good is total BS.
Am I going to call the doc in a week? No, no need. Rollo, and all thanks for shedding some light.
KC
 

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no need..... if she isn't worth it and/or you're just mainly plate spinning.

Nothing against you going for the personal number; that worked for reasons RT stated (it showed confidence); not so much for the number in and of itself. Just realize its an addendum to the number you already have.
 

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Men of the Forum, 2 weeks and nada. No worries. I do however have another issue. In a moment of minimal plates spinning I allowed my last dating friend back in the picture. Now, I nexted her for a couple reasons. Most importantly was her lack of commitment to the relationship. There were trust issues there as well. The trust deal stemmed from some lying. Lie to me and it's a BIG thing. So I nexted her on all of it. Ok after a month, she kept trying to get in, yep she reconciled to make change. So I began to let her back in. Now you all may be crying foul here, and there's a chance you are right. There is also a chance that if the penalty is big enough a person has to change. I made it known that she has to fix what is wrong. The issues are not my doing. That lying, or keeping walls up are hers to own up to. OK so here I am with a gal that is actively trying to change, and yet I'm not at peace. Why? Well trust....The question is if its lost in a relationship. If its damaged, can you get it back. Her take is that she is with me, that she thinks its on both people to get it back. OK so I can concede that holding baggage over her head isn't going to help. YET IT IS HER JOB TO REBUILD THE DAMAGED BRIDGE! You screw something up, and you take ownership is my take. She has begun the process, and as I said, it's hard for me to believe its sincere. It's as if any little speedbump completely derails my belief that she is on the up and up.
Thoughts???
 

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Action Plan continues

Men of the Forum,
I am unplugging my dumb a@@ from the control. I've read enough to realize the mistakes that I am making, (see latest Action Plan post). Now, for me this is like being back in Officer Candidate school. I related that to a fellow DJ this morning. It's one of the HARDEST yet most FULFILLING tasks that I have ever undertaken. I can climb mountains, fly military helicopters to a 50 meter target under NVG's, and fly and train some of the best of the worlds pilots in a Gulfstream jet, and yet THIS IS MY CHALLENGE. To make it free of what I refer to as the Oprafication of the Western Male. Yes, I was pulled in. All in worshipping "getting some", or just being a fool to the right path that I "should" be on. Yes my own weakness in playing second best, just so I can get some? That's just Bull#$it. You all know it. Respect, admiration, and keeping to my principles are what SHALL DRIVE ME.
I ask humbly for your support. Good luck to us all, and let there be continued excellence here in the Mature Man forum!
KC
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Interceptor said:
Whew...
and here I thought you were turning into one of those dreaded...Zombies!!


You DO know they are real, don't you??




:crackup:


LOL! You know, I made that same kind of crack to some friends referring to those dawn of the dead movies and they gave me a weird look until I explained what I meant by saying that every day I see people walking around like zombies
 
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